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Shows with multiple posters[edit]

I'm sorting through my big ol' pile of miscellaneous TMBG stuff I need to sort through and came across a show poster, but the show already has a different poster uploaded. I'm sure there must be some way to include both but I'm not sure how that works with the template. It's actually an early show/late show situation so I suppose one poster could be linked to the early and one to the late, but neither of them are actually specific to either. If it matters I will also add that the one I have is a smaller flier sort of thing, and I vaguely remember some discussion at some point about posters vs. fliers vs. small listings in newspapers, but I don't recall what if any conclusions were ever reached. --Self Called Nowhere (talk) 04:34, 19 June 2023 (EDT)

Collection feature[edit]

It seems that the collection feature has been broken since January. Every time I try to add something to my collection, the button just disappears. Does anyone know what's going on? -Cf20936

Code is broken. Cap has already alerted one of the coding moderators of it.--You&Me!! (talk) 14:53, 10 May 2022 (EDT)

new version of file problem[edit]

I’m having problems with uploading new versions of files. I tried to upload a new version of TMBGApp2.png and it just uploaded a stretched-out version of the same image.

I tried the same thing with Beatles.jpg and on the The Beatles article, it displays the same image, but on the file page, it displays the image I uploaded. What’s happening?? - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

Your browser doesn't realize there's a new file at the same URL as the previous image it already loaded. Just need to do a cache refresh to see the new image come through. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 09:54, 15 May 2022 (EDT)

Flansy Accident[edit]

According a post by Linnell to the Facebook page, Flansy was in a car accident last night on the way home from the concert, breaking seven ribs. (talk) 11:56, 9 June 2022 (EDT)


Hold on, is Linnell a photographer? I always assumed that there were two people named John Linnell, one an awesome very-talented songwriter, and the other a photographer, but now I'm starting to think they're the same guy. Somebody please clarify because I am very confused. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

TMBG Linnell is an outspoken camera enthusiast and enjoys taking photos, but I don't think there's any famous photographer named John Linnell. There is an 18th century painter with the same name. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 21:49, 6 July 2022 (EDT)

The Dystopianist, Thinking of His Rival, is Interrupted by a Knock at the Door[edit]

in 2004, an audiobook named "Men and Cartoons" was published, a collection of short stories, with one being by john linnell. "The Dystopianist, Thinking of His Rival, is Interrupted by a Knock at the Door" is 22 minutes of john linnell narrating his own original short story (with the first 1:30 having music). it is also available on there is hardly any information about it online anywhere, or any transcription. i think a page on TMBW would be a good place for it, but i want to verify first: would such a page be deleted for not actually being music (at least, past the first 1:30)? --Ncrecc (talk) 09:34, 4 August 2022 (EDT)

It should definitely have a TMBW page! Just probably not a "song" page. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 10:42, 4 August 2022 (EDT)

on further inspection, it seems that the story actually originates from the print version of men and cartoons, written solely by johnathan lethem, and john linnell's only involvement was narrating the audiobook version. i should probably have deduced that (it is an easy deduction to make) before transcribing the audio... good way to spend half of an hour. --Ncrecc (talk) 12:48, 4 August 2022 (EDT)

In the future, if you're curious or confused about something on my site, just ask me. --Self Called Nowhere (talk) 16:46, 4 August 2022 (EDT)
Just following up to say I still think the audiobook reading should have a page on TMBW! (I admittedly skimmed your initial message and would've pointed out Linnell didn't write the story if I caught it.) -CapitalQtalk ♪ 17:37, 4 August 2022 (EDT)

Collections & Upcoming Attendance stopgap fix[edit]

When TMBW moved to HTTPS in January, it broke a couple of features including the ability to add/remove albums from Collections and mark yourself as attending future Shows. I put in a few rigs to get these working again today, and we can remove my inline JS mess when Brad makes the appropriate tweaks. (I cannot similarly fix Song Ratings, sorry.) -CapitalQtalk ♪ 18:25, 12 August 2022 (EDT)

Anyone know what this is?[edit]

TMBG are credited as music composers... --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 00:17, 27 August 2022 (EDT)

Enjoy! -CapitalQtalk ♪ 00:23, 27 August 2022 (EDT)

John Flansburgh and Frank Black performance[edit]

I found this old video of John F. and Frank Black performing Istanbul via. Facebook. Couldn't find anything about the venue or the show, but I think it might have taken place on a boat? There was also a mention about a Valentine's Day yacht. They were called the "Ed Krattiger Blues Experience" and they also performed Dirt Bike, but there's no footage of them performing the song online currently. Does anyone have more information about this show? - Mrsomebodyelse (talk) 02:17, 27 August 2022 (EDT)

Your best bet might be to ask Ed himself - he's got contact info on his website. Let us know if you find anything else out! -CapitalQtalk ♪ 10:49, 29 August 2022 (EDT)

Info Club[edit]

I found a 1996 copy of the Info Club Newsletter with the letter Flansburgh's Brush with Greatness. Can't find any pages for these Info Club newsletters though, was wondering if I should scan and upload for the Wiki's use or if I'm just not looking in the right place. Typing "info Club" into the search just gives me TMBG Info Club FAQ.--Pittsburghmuggle (talk) 12:05, 7 September 2022 (EDT)

I don't think the wiki generally hosts scans of these sorts of things, but I'd be happy to take it for my site. The wiki does already have a a typed version of what you're talking about, on the Letters from J&J page, but you're absolutely right that this page is hard to find unless you know what you're looking for. Awhile ago I offered to take on the project of getting all this stuff organized/more findable, but then it got pushed to the back burner due to the million other projects I'm working on at any given time. But this is a reminder that it's important and I should bump it up the queue. --Self Called Nowhere (talk) 14:39, 7 September 2022 (EDT)

Rarities collection[edit]

I heard a while back that they might be giants may be working on a rarities collection, like the EP songs, mrs train ext. Is this true? or was I mistaken. sep 16 2022 Pinata time

Flansburgh hinted on a KMSU interview last year (on Nov 19, 2021) that a vinyl compilation of Elektra B-sides and remixes is potentially in the works. No talk of it since then, but he also announced Mink Car on vinyl was coming on that interview and it did shortly after. To my understanding, TMBG has the rights to rerelease their Elektra material including the out-of-print '90s EPs but hasn't gotten to it yet. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 16:55, 16 September 2022 (EDT)

Another Alice Cooper reference?[edit]

Anyone ever note the similarities between Rat Patrol & Alice Cooper's Billion Dollar Babies? The dynamics, guitar solos, & singing style (sort of) are a little uncanny. The lyrics not so much, other than they are a bit creepy. Another nod to the Godfather of Shock? Twitter: @timmyjim

ParticleMen profile photo[edit]

Does anyone know whose face is on TMBG's profile pic on YouTube? I thought it was William Allen White at first, but now I'm not so sure. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

It’s New York governor Mario Cuomo! - FloridaFlamingoGirl talk

Band members past and present[edit]

Is there a page on the wiki that lists all of TMBG’s backup members, including ones who no longer work with the band like Dan Hickey, Brian Doherty, and Hal Cragin? I think it would be quite useful if there was one. As of now the Band Members page only lists the two Johns. - FloridaFlamingoGirl talk 14 November 2022, 1:00 PST

Yes. I found this by just looking at the individual page of one of the former members, Dan Hickey, and checking if there was anything listed--this is an easy method if you have a similar question in the future. That said, this could be a case where it's info that could be made more prominent/easy to find. --Self Called Nowhere (talk) 04:47, 14 November 2022 (EST)
Also helpful (though perhaps incomplete) is Wikipedia's band timeline for TMBG. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 08:51, 14 November 2022 (EST)
Honestly the entire WP page needs a makeover, specifically the last paragraph. It's all over the place.--You&Me!! (talk) 09:18, 14 November 2022 (EST)
I would much rather go on TMBW than Wikipedia to learn anything about TMBG. Last I checked, the Wikipedia page for them made John Henry and Mink Car out to be massive failures that tarnished the band's career. -FloridaFlamingoGirl
That's based on critic reviews for John Henry and Mink Car (although beloved by fans), were not rated highly by critics upon release. TitanicFog (talk) 12:41, 15 November 2022 (EST)
It also lists a one-star The Guardian review of The Spine, but based on a review of a live show I think The Guardian just has a problem with TMBG in general. --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 00:37, 16 November 2022 (EST)

What is “Negative Ad”?[edit]

Seriously. Is it a new song? Is it a vibe report? An announcement? I need to know! - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

It was a cute 28-second video that advertised TMBG’s tour in the style of a political attack ad. -FloridaFlamingoGirl

We Are Meh![edit]

I saw that on TMBG's Youtube, they posted an official audio entitled: We Are Meh. Is this a rarity or an unreleased track? In the description it said that it was for a website. If anyone can research on this song, that would be awesome, and if anyone could make a page for it that would be awesome as well! Bluecanaryalex (talk) 11:44, 1 December 2022 (EST)

It's had a page for seven years: Meh (We Are Meh) -CapitalQtalk ♪ 13:21, 1 December 2022 (EST)
Oh! I never knew, LMAOOO Bluecanaryalex (talk) 14:10, 1 December 2022 (EST)
Category:Songs[1] and the search bar can be very helpful! TitanicFog (talk) 11:54, 2 December 2022 (EST)

Danny's Birthday[edit]

Happy 59th birthday, Mr. Weinkauf! The wikians wish you a very happy birthday :) Bluecanaryalex (talk) 11:19, 4 December 2022 (EST)

puppet jam article moves[edit]

fyi, recently a bunch of puppet jam articles were moved to pages with the "puppet jam: " prefix in the title, but the lyrics/interp/credits/etc. pages were not moved along with them. i keep thinking "oh i'll do it" and then forget --Ncrecc (talk) 17:47, 9 December 2022 (EST)

Done. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

homestar links[edit]

Should we make interwiki links for, like we do for Youtube? - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

I think we should! You might have to ask Jon about it, though, since I have no clue. Ms. Xcitement (talk) 13:43, 27 January 2023 (EST)

Tiny Toons and Birdhouse[edit]

It's the anniversary of the Tiny Toons music videos! It's also the anniversary of the Birdhouse In Your Soul single! Ms. Xcitement (talk) 07:43, 1 February 2023 (EST)


Happy birthday to one of my favorite movies, Coraline! I adore the Other Father Song and the movie itself. Ms. Xcitement (talk) 07:43, 6 February 2023 (EST)

TMBW's Birthday[edit]

Happy birthday to TMBW!! Mrs.Xcitement (talk) 11:12, 25 February 2023 (EST)

Pesky ampersands[edit]

There's a formatting problem with show pages where the venue has an ampersand in its name. Check out this show at Hal & Mal's in Jackson, MS, or as it renders on the page, "Hal & Mal's." Clicking through on the venue from the show page goes to a broken link, since the URL only gets the "Hal" bit. I tried changing the ampersand to & on the 2008 page, but that makes it worse, turning the venue on the show page into "Hal &amp&#59; Mal's." Yikes! This is also an issue for 4th & B in San Diego, e.g. here. --Octoflange (talk) 01:54, 2 March 2023 (EST)

i saw pesky ampersands and i thought you were talking about me :'( --You&Me!! (talk)
Thanks for noticing this bug! Just added a little rule to the Show Page template that should fix this. Let me know if you see any other issues with the change, as it's always possible a modification like this could inadvertently introduce other bugs. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 10:22, 2 March 2023 (EST)
Thanks for fixing! Here's a related issue... From the page for "Women & Men," if I click on the link for the song rating breakdown, the URL breaks after "Women" (like so). --Octoflange (talk) 03:30, 4 March 2023 (EST)

IFC 2023[edit]

Does anyone know when IFC 2023 will be? And on that note, what is the general price for IFC subscriptions? Thanks! — HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

No one knows except TMBG. There are usually 2 or 3 price tiers for IFC, with the first one coming in at $99 or lower. Here is the last offering from 2020 on for reference. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 19:51, 15 March 2023 (EDT)
At tonight's show JL took some pictures with one of his 3-D cameras and explained that they were attempting to create Viewmaster reels for the next offering, but he also admitted it might totally not work. (This does not directly answer your question, but I'm sharing anyway because a) it's tangentially related and b) it would be supercool if they did manage to pull it off.) --Self Called Nowhere (talk) 01:58, 16 March 2023 (EDT)

Apollo 18[edit]

HAPPY BDAY APOLLO 18!!! >_< Mrs.Xcitement (talk) 12:56, 20 March 2023 (EDT)

Megaphone pic[edit]

You know that image of the Johns speaking into megaphones? They've been using that photo a lot on their social medias, and I'm wondering. Where did that image come from? — HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

It came from a publicity photo session with photographer Sam Graff. I believe those photos began debuting in late 2019, initially around the release of the song "Social Media." -CapitalQtalk ♪ 17:58, 17 April 2023 (EDT)


Hooray! It's Marty's birthday!! LowRiseJeans (talk) 12:10, 10 July 2023 (EDT)

password reset[edit]

password reset seems broken; i requested a password reset and never got one -- 21:38, 30 August 2023 (EDT)