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Knowledge Base[edit]

Hey, I don't mean to be a stickler, but this has been bugging me for a while, and now that it's on the main page twice (and in big letters one of those times), I have to point out that knowledge base is two words, not one. I would change it myself, but I don't know how to change the one at the top of the side bar. Also, for consistency's sake, we might want to pick either "The TMBG Knowledge Base" (what it says in the side bar) or "A TMBG Knowledge Base" (what it now says near the top of the main page). What does everyone else think? ~Drew

Done and done and done. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 22:02, 8 July 2006 (UTC)


Who is that cut-out head that the people wear in the Don't Lets Start music video? It's appeared numerous other times, I AM DYING TO KNOW!!!!! --Homfrog 19:23, 7 July 2006 (MDT)

You mean the one in TMBW's logo and in the big discussion about the head on this very page? See William Allen White. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 19:31, 7 July 2006 (MDT)

State Songs EP wanted![edit]

Does anyone have the original 'Hello' EP, with the five early State Song mixes? If do you, email me at Thank you!!

It still appears on eBay for cheap from time to time. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 20:21, 7 July 2006 (MDT)
That's where I got it for pretty cheap just a few months ago. ~Drew[edit]

On the discography at, there are a few things we don't have on here, e.g. - "Selections From The 2-CD Retrospective Then: The Earlier Years" and "New York City Live!!" (not Live!! New York City 10/14/94 for those who might think it is), so I was wondering whether I should put them on here? - ( Herwwiyal ? )

Go ahead. :) Nice finds. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 06:46, 8 July 2006 (MDT)

Main page tabs and links centered[edit]

L-R: IE, Firefox

Hello. I've noticed that the Main Page renders differently when viewing it in various browsers. Specifically, the tabs along the top and all the links along the left are centered in IE when they shouldn't be. I think the problem could be resolved if you removed the <center> tags before and after <h3>Site Map</h3> at the bottom. (You really should use CSS instead of <center> tags anyway, and there's a missing </div> at the end, but those are other discussions for other days.) Talk atcha later. — It's dot com 23:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice catch, fixed. :) -CapitalQtalk ♪ 21:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

What is this Linnell single??[edit]

There are a couple copies of a strange single on eBay - it's "The Dream Lives On" by John Linnell, released in 1987... found it on a couple other sites too. I'm 99% sure it's NOT the real Linnell, but I thought it's worth a look:

Hahahah, yeah, those have been on eBay forever. It's definitely not our Linnell. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 00:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)


After noticing the recent deletion of a page titled "Sandbox", it wade me wonder why we didn't have one in the first place? (Though, preferrably not in the main namespace.) It's practically a wiki standard like "Recent changes" "Whatlinks here" (usually referred to as "Back links"). — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

We sort of do already. I've used it a few times. I guess it's just not really advertised. These pages suggest using it to test and whatnot. Someone usually just deletes it after they're finished testing though. TMBaB's welcoming message leads to it's mention somewhat indirectly, but that's probably the only way people would know to use it. I wouldn't mind having a permanent page (meaning we don't just keep deleting it), and I would agree to keeping it out of the main namespace, but I don't think it would get much use as we probably wouldn't use it too often. And it would most likely encourage spamming and other nonsense, as people see the page's contents as inconsequential. --badqueso 22:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Spamming could easily be taken care of with a robots.txt file. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't really see the need for a Sandbox. First off, as Badqueso said, we wouldn't really use it all that often. And secondly, if someone needs to, each user has their own personal space on the wiki to do pretty much anything they'd ever want to do, their username-page-whatchamacallit. When I've experimented here, I just clear off my current stuff from the page (if that's even necessary), test stuff, and then revert it back to how it was before. All nice and clean. ~ magbatz 23:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Just a laughable thought...[edit]

Recently I was in the mall and walked into a chocolate store. I was telling my cousin that I ordered Severe Tire Damage, and Borders would call me to pick it up soon. As soon as "They Might Be Giants" was mentioned, I was echoed by a: "They Might Be Giants?!" from the store's clerk. He seemed like a kid, I dunno, a teenager maybe. He asked, "Are they doing shows or anything?" And I nodded and answered with, "Well, yeah, they're not dead!" We trailed off into silence, and I began talking to my cousins and brother. So as my aunt approached to buy our candy (yay!), he asked me once again, "So they're still doing shows?"

Once again I replied: "Yeah."

"I heard you had to be, like 21 or older, 'cause they hate kids."

"But they did two kids CDs!"

Laughing: "Yeah, but they hate kids!"

Leaving the store, my cousin mumbled to me: "You think THEY hated themselves when THEY were kids?!"

Just kinda funny. =) Both the conversation and my cousin's response.

PS: Sorry for the long response, my brother was telling me to put this on the wiki somewhere. --Lemita 01:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)


we gotta link to it on the main page. it's empty as shit --liam (wtf?) 03:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)


So are we documenting the filming locations of any of the videos on TMBW? Just thought seeing as its not hard to tell where they're all filmed:

  • Put Your Hand Inside the Puppet Head: N 8th St, Williamsburg
  • Don't Let's Start: Tent of Tomorrow, Flushing Meadows-Corona Park
  • Ana Ng: supposeldy a Fireman Training Grounds, Long Island
  • They'll Need a Crane: Bethesda Terrace, Central Park
  • Birdhouse in Your Soul: 31 Chambers St, Manhatten
  • The Statue Got Me High: Sepulveda Dam, Los Angeles Rivers

etc --AnklePants 15:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Accordion Music[edit]

Doesn't anybody think it would be a rad idea if there was a massive page dedicated to accordion players? And it would like teach us TMBG songs on the accordion. --Mr.klaw

Have a look at Talk:Accordion. This may not teach you anything but it's the answer to the first part of your wish. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 15:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wonky Lyrics pages?[edit]

What's up with all the lyrics pages? It looks like all the line breaks have disappeared. --Salt-Man Z 16:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Discussed here. We're working on it...kinda. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 17:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Clooves Question[edit]

Does anybody know what happened to They Might Be Giants Multimedia? It doesn't appear to exsist any longer

I'm not sure, but you can contact the site's creator at leolapyre [at] gmail [dot] com. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 00:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
I found what I believe to be all the videos from TMBG Multimedia here -ill masta
I can't see that webjay website right now (I'm on a school computer and the site's blocked), but I think this is the place you were looking for-- it has all those 120 Minutes and JBTV and Conan performances, though I'm not sure if the links work:


I think it would be a fun/educational idea if there was like a trivia page where users could post questions about TMBG, and then smart people could answer them. The post-ers would need to know the answers to the questions they post, so that they can tell the guess-ers they are correct. Since the Wiki contains sooooooooo much info d'Giants, we probally shouldn't use it to search for answers. The correct response would have to come from lots of TMBG knowledge. Example: Name the singer of "Boat of Car" Mr.klaw

Actually, I am goin to create a trivia page called Talk:Trivia Mr.klaw

New Users[edit]

Just out of curiosity, where are all the new users coming from? I count some crazy number like 18 in the last 2 days, which is quite a lot by our standards! Not that I'm complaining...I'm just wondering why the sudden spike? --Duke33 03:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we got some new fans via the supposed reggae stylings of that new Dunkin' Donuts commercial? ~ magbatz 03:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Instrument Listing[edit]

I think it would be a good idea to put a label showing the instruments used in a song, such as the guitars, or a trumpet, synth, etc. Leonard Carrier 03:55, 5 October 2006 (PST)

We've talked about it too...check this out: TMBW To-Do List. --Duke33 23:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
Shouldn't be too hard, I'd be up for it myself, all one has to do is sit back and listen to some TMBG... --Vixus 00:59, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Fan Art/Poetry/etc[edit]

I was just looking on the wiki for that edited TMBg publicity photo with John and John in a car as the grim Reapers or something, and I looked around and I couldn't find it anywhere. Or anything else for that matter, like the "Dizzy TMBg" poem and a few other things I remember being on here. Did we decide to get rid of that stuff, or is it just somewhere I can't find it? (and on a personal note, I'm looking for some user's track listing for an awesome mix, and I'm half-positive that it's the same person who did the grim-Reaper-Johns picture, so if anyone knows who or where that is, you will have just helped me greatly! thanks)  ~ magbatz

You can find that awesome poem here and the picture here. The playlist you are likely thinking of is on the user page of Flux. --badqueso 02:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Thank you, and thank you, and thank you. It was a good playlist, and mad props to you for being able to find that stuff--thanks. But let me ask you (or anyone): was there ever a singular page devoted to that kind of fan-created art?  ~ magbatz 03:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
There was, but Duke deleted it a few months ago. I didn't want the poems and such to be gone forever so I restored them to the user's namespaces. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 03:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Dec 16 @ 9 PM - Brooklyn Show[edit]

It's going to be great, but my friend had computer problems and couldn't get his ticket through ticketweb. I'm scrambling to find him a ticket, so if any kindhearted fellow fans have an extra ticket, please let me know ASAP! My email is firelily AT gmail DOT com.

STD vs LTW[edit]

TMBG calls The Spine their tenth album, right? Well they're probably

  • Pink Album
  • Lincoln
  • Flood
  • Apollo 18
  • John Henry
  • Factory Showroom
  • Mink Car
  • No!

Wait... we're missing one. There should be one more.

It could be either Severe Tire Damage or Long Tall Weekend, right? Well, which one is it? This question has bothered me for forever, and now I'm asking you guys. Can you help me? -User:AgentChronon

So here's what each album has going for it to be considered the 7th album. STD is more popular than LTW, seeing as They had a label when they released it and it's an actual CD. It also contains studio releases of three new songs (Dr. Worm, About Me, and the Theme To STD), two new live songs (First Kiss and They Got Lost) and like 7 never-heard-before Battle of the Apes things. It should be noted, though, that the never-before-released live songs were both reworked and put on studio albums.
Now LTW. There are 15 songs, most of which are unreleased. (Well, They Got Lost was previously released on the live album, but if you're rooting for LTW, then you could argue that the same thing happened with First Kiss reappearing on Mink Car. And then Token Back To Brooklyn was a hidden track on Factory Showroom.) All were studio recordings. Wikipedia calls it "the first major full-length album released exclusively on the Internet by an established major label band." However, that also brings up the fact that LTW was never widely released in CD form. Another weakness for LTW is that maybe five of the songs were also released on They Got Lost (the album) and two reworked for Mink Car.
So, in short... Pros for STD: some new material, some studio material, was widely released. Cons for STD: mostly live versions of old material, some reworked for later albums. Pros for LTW: all studio material, mostly new material. Cons for LTW: an online release, songs were mostly FS-era outtakes, some were rereleased on a rarities album.
So the argument, in my opinion, is: Can a live album be considered album? Is an obscure, outtakes-filled CD a compilation or an actual album? So there's what I think are the main arguments for either side-- so, pick one. And thank you, Agent Chronon, for just happening to wonder which album was the seventh. Very smooth ;) ~ magbatz. Now as for view on it, I personally would go with LTW, because I think STD being a live album basically disqualifies it from being a real album, while LTW was at the time unreleased new material (besides Token...) and consisted of songs taken from the two or three years before LTW was released (as opposed to Misc. T, which was material from all the way back in the early 80s).
TMBG's definitely referring to Long Tall Weekend as one of the first nine albums. Severe Tire Damage was a live album that just happened to have a couple of studio tracks added on (perhaps as a bonus). -CapitalQtalk ♪ 00:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, yeah, but since some songs from LTW are on They Got Lost, it's considered a "rarity" and on User's Guide on the actual disk it listed all the different albums and didn't mention Long Tall Weekend... but that's probably because no songs from it were on User's Guide. -User:AgentChronon

Just giving STD some more props here. (She Thinks She's) Edith Head (1) and Older (2) were remade for Mink Car. Lullabye To Nightmares (3) was a remake and On Earth My Nina (4) was pretty much too. Rat Patrol (5), Token Back To Brooklyn (6), Reprehensible (7), Certain People I Could Name (8), and They Got Lost (9) were all put onto the They Got Lost (Rarities Compilation) ("rare" being the key word there). And The Edison Museum (10) was re-released on No!. So that's 10 songs on a 15 song album (or 2/3) that were "messed with."
Severe Tire Damage was half "remakes" (aka live versions) and half totally new songs (or 12/24. You could say the hidden songs don't count and make it 5/17, but this is an argument for STD). But at least the "remakes" were different from the originals. Six of the tracks on LTW were straight re-released, not remade, most onto a "rarities" collection, lowering LTW's status, and it was never "officially" released in a physical format. (By the way magbatz, the guy who worded that currently thinks Wikipedia is a joke. Just saying.) Remember, STD is the album that has Doctor Worm, a favorite of many, on it. It was even released as a single and as their first video in four years. What singles were on LTW again?
Now I also understand the difficulty in considering a live album as a "numbered album" but maybe this will make you think about the possibility. And then there's the thought that the Giants may not have it set themselves, though I don't think this is what I'd ask them if I met them (though I have thought about it..). I'm not rooting for any side here, just opening up discussion some more. I'm sure I could come up with an equally strong (and equally fallacious) argument for LTW. --badqueso 03:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, both albums have a lot going against them. LTW basically consisted of a) re-used songs and b) songs that would later be re-used. STD is the only live album up for "consideration". But back to the real discussion about my main man Mr. Branddobbe. He may have recently had his userpage say that, BUT he's made something like 4000 or 4500 (I lost count) edits to wikipedia in the last 3 or so years, and his last userpage and his userbox/personal page are pretty extremely in-depth and he's a really committed wikipedian. So THERE!!! ~ magbatz
Hey, I told you it was fallacious! (don't eat me!) --badqueso 05:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
As long as I can have your soul, I promise I'll leave your body alone. Deal? ~ magbatz 08:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
As long as you don't send the nbsp demons to harvest it. And I think it's tainted from the 80s, so wear gloves. --badqueso 08:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
Long Tall Weekend had only ONE previously released studio track on it when it came out, and that was originally a hidden track (Token Back on Factory Showroom). The other song that had been previously released was as a very differently-tempo'd live song on Severe Tire Damage, They Got Lost. Now, think about how many songs Severe Tire Damage had that were brand new studio recordings, compared to LTW's fourteen. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 23:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I forgot to include Token Back To Brooklyn and They Got Lost in some of my numbers. So that's four old ones: Token Back To Brooklyn from Factory Showroom, Lullabye To Nightmares from Hello The Band, They Got Lost from Severe Tire Damage, and On Earth My Nina which is Thunderbird (previously a live song) backwards. My bigger point concerning LTW was that most of these songs were re-released (and on a rarities compilation to boot). Calling these songs rare devalues LTW as a whole. If this were as firmly an album as you suggest, then why do the songs need to be re-released on other albums? I don't see them putting Everything Right Is Wrong Again on another album. Is it worse for the album for a song to be a remake (like tracks on STD, Mink Car, etc.) or for a song to be remade/re-released (LTW)? Now if you want to debate the meaning of "studio track" then you're on your own, especially if you're comparing to a stated "live" album. --badqueso 00:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
My vote is totally for LTW. It's a studio album, albeit a novelty (online-only) studio album, while STD is a live album with a few studio tracks included. ~Drew

I know this debate died down a few months ago, but we have official word now on what Flans says. Although they said the Spine was number ten (meaning one of the two sort-of albums wouldn't count), he said in this article that the new one was either number 12 or number 13 (Spine is 10 or 11, ABCs, is 11 or 12, new one is 12 or 13). So the final answer is: They don't if only one or if both count as albums, and it doesn't seem like they care to figure it out. Whoo. ~ magbatz

That streamable radio show today[edit]

For those of us who, unlike me, did not have to be at school for the first show, and who, unlike me, actually were smart enough to tune into the 9-o-clock thing-- what happened? Was it an interview dealy thing? Was it them playing a few (new?) songs? Anyone? ~ magbatz 02:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC) (and as a side, this radio station rocks! I just went to it and they're playing Bob Dylan's Dignity. Great song.)

They played Bee Of The Bird Of The Moth, We Live In A Dump, and (as a request from the DJ) Doctor Worm, had a really funny interview, and had the DJ play a The Long Winters song on the second radio show they did today. I didn't hear the first show, but both should be on the radio station's Web site archive. :) ~Drew
Sounds cool, thanks. I'll definitely look out for that. ~ magbatz


It's a shame about the free MP3s thing, but I can understand. And I respect y'all for taking it down and respecting their wishes. Good job! :) ~Anna Ng hears your words.

Can anyone in here read Japanese?[edit]

Apparently with the "cryptic" message mentioned on the News section, They were trying to put the message in Japanese but something or other didn't support it. So now they just made a picture out of it [1], but to me it's still unreadable. So can anyone read this and tell us what it says? I'm gonna see some kid who's in 4th-year Japanese class on Saturday, so I can probably ask him to translate it if no one's figured it out before then. ~ magbatz 01:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)


A friend who knows japanese has translated it for me:

I want you to listen to the new podcast of They Might Be Giants! We are planning to have a very big tour to promote two [TMBG] albums that we are releasing in 2007. We have just finished recording an awesome album, working with legendary producers, Dust Bros. & Pat Dillett. We are working on a kids album "Here Come the 123s" and its DVD.

User: Guy-Smiley

New Vid On Youtube![edit]

Whence that wince.

Check it out..



Their Myspace profile's been updated. Yay! Kaiilaiqualyn 13:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)


Hey, how did they know that today's my unbirthday? --badqueso 07:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd assume they're sending a link to that to any Myspace friends who are having birthdays, however they do that. Then again, that doesn't explain why it says the song is from Lincoln. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 16:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
And while I'm not sure if that unlinked page was considered a secret, I think I've found the only real secrets on; clicking the TMBG image at the top of that It's Not My Birthday page loads the song in one of the pop-up song windows, and clicking the crane image on the News / splash page does the same. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 16:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
It's Not My Birthday is off the "B-sides" from Lincoln, is it not? --Salt-Man Z 18:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

Peter Pan 2?[edit]

Woah! According to this, TMBG wrote music for Peter Pan 2, Return to Neverland. Did we know this? Does anyone own the movie who can check the credits or something? You think something would've been said at the time, but then again, I wasn't a fan back in 2002, so I wouldn't know if They did say something. --Ganna

See Disney's Return To Neverland. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 01:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
Oh! Alrighty then. -- Ganna


Hey, if we can think of a better tagline, are we allowed to change it? Or is it off limits?

Everyone's allowed to change the tagline whenever they want, that's why we have the "Edit the tagline" link under it. :) -CapitalQtalk ♪ 14:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

"(The Song)"[edit]

Somewhere at some point I remember there was something said about songs being titled either "Song Name (The Song)" or "Album Name (The Album)" and changing them to be simply "Song Name (Song)" or "Album Name (Album)". I don't know where I stand (or if I even stand at all on this), but yeah, I'm just putting it out there, because I'm pretty sure some people started talking about it. Though maybe not, I've been known to think weirder things... ~ magbatz 04:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I moved all the "The Song"s and etc to "Song" a few days ago, it just seems a lot cleaner and uses less unnecessary wordage. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 04:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Well then, I guess I'm a little bit late on bringing it up. Whoo! ~ magbatz 20:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Cleaner 'Welcome to TMBW' look[edit]

It just occurred to me that you could have Main Page redirect to say, This Might Be A Wiki - The TMBG Knowledge Base. It'll not-have the 'Redirected from <page>' thing at the top, and it'll avoid having two level-one headers. Just a suggestion.

And as proof, or to just see it in action, you can check this out for an example. -J2

I much prefer having the main page titled as such (and the discussion as Talk:Main Page). I'm open to other not-so-radical suggestions for getting rid of the two level-one headers, though, and I'm sure Duke33 is as well. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 01:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
All right. Well, you could probably do it with CSS. I'll play around with it in the sandbox later. -J2
I know this is a rather old thread (two months), but the css needed to do it is:
<div class="firstHeading" style="font-size: 188%; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; float: left; position: absolute; left: 0.5em; top: 0%; width: 98%; background-color:#FFFFFF">This Might Be A Wiki - The TMBG Knowledge Base</div>

— User:ACupOfCoffee@ 23:26, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that, it looks great except that the bottom of the "g" from the original title (Main Page) is still (ever so slightly) visible in Firefox. Know anything that can be done about that? -CapitalQtalk ♪ 23:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
No, but it's happening because the title's not being changed on the page but being covered up by the new one. Maybe if a space were added to the beginning of the title it would make the "g"s line up?
That's a bit of a messy solution, plus the font isn't monospaced so they likely wouldn't line up perfectly anyway. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 00:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
I don't know anything about this type of stuff, but would making the div-table-box-thing's "padding-bottom" greater cover up the bottom of the G? then, I guess, you could just underline the title on its own. Although I'm not sure if that thing of code you have up there is blocking out the already-existent underliney headline, since if it isn't, then my solution probably wouldn't work. ~ magbatz
Other than on the edit revision pages, it looks perfect! Absolute genius, Magbatz. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 03:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Edit: Though it seems to now look very spacey in Internet Explorer. I guess it's best without modifying the padding-bottom, it didn't have any problems in IE then and the only problem in FF is very minor. Thanks for trying, though. :D -CapitalQtalk ♪ 03:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
Awwwww! But I like it better when I win! *pout pout cry* ~ magbatz
Just an looks fine in monobook, but it's severely honked in other skins, such as the TMBW skin. --Duke33 15:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Wired Cameo[edit]

I don't think that this is worthy for main page news, but TMBG got a brief mention in the latest edition of Wired magazine:


You finally traded your They
Might Be Giants T-shirt for a suit...

-AtionSong 18:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Political Cartoons/Art[edit]

I was just wondering if anyone else had seen this art exhibition or read anything about it. A couple of TMBG collaberators, Brian Dewan and Kurt Hoffman, had pieces in the exhibit. I haven't yet looked through them all, but there might be others. Just thought others here might be interested. Krueger 04:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Rectangular Guitar[edit]

Anyone know what that squarish/rectangular guitar that flans has used frequently, as seen in this pic? [2] I figure the one he uses is probably out of my price range, but has anyone else seen any guitars like that, that would be less than say... 3000$? I always wanted to build up my reputation as the "Geek that rocks" I figured that would be exactly how. Thanks! --Fasterthanyou 02:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

it's a custom made mojo guitar. you could probably get one custom made like it for something like $3000

Move powarz?[edit]

What? We have the ability to move pages? Has this always been around? Maybe it's a bug? -J2

Everyone has always had this ability, even on Wikipedia. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 15:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
What. Wow. I'm probably blind. -J2

I'm bored. really really really bored.[edit]

anyone wanna get on tmbw chat?

Particle Man is LyricWiki's song of the day[edit] for March the 9th :)


Hahaha what a foreboding message to put on the homepage. Exactly what changes will we see? I'm excited. -Cronny

What can they do to the site that's note Web 1.0? Rename to "This Might Be a 2.0?" 04:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'm not going to tell anyone how I did it (it was pretty easy), but the changes are really good! :D Stalefries 04:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Psyche. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 13:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
It's not April yet. I thought, perhaps, for a second... -Cronny
For the record: I know, and it's pretty. :p --Luke 16:00, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Damn, someone found it before me. -J2
I was under the impression that wikis were "web 2.0" by default. When did this change? --badqueso 05:07, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
So did I. Hah, I'm not gonna complain about an upgrade though. -Cronny
So, exatly what is going to be different? --Josherz 19:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
All will be revealed on Saturday. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 19:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
The question should be, rather, what ISN'T going to be different-- bwahaha! ~ magbatz 23:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
Somehow I get the feeling they're enjoying this... -Cronny
At least someone is. Also: this was a secret? --badqueso 00:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Ok, you've definitly piqued my curiosity :-) --Josherz 23:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Hah. I thought it was an album debut thing at first. A wiki upgrade, huh? Sweet. :) I'm quite curious as well! --Lemita 00:38, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
zomg, noon, eh? What time zone? Or will it depend on my system clock via some wacked-out javascript or something? Stalefries 00:10, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
EST stands for Eastern Standard Time. :) -CapitalQtalk ♪ 00:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I realized that :D. And now my edit conflicts with yours! You're pretty fast on the wiki-draw. Stalefries 00:13, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Egads! -Cronny

So, I guess it's safe now to tell everyone how I saw the theme beforehand, huh? Well, when I saw what directory the teaser images were stored in and realized it was a theme directory, I immediately went to the Preferences page and clicked on the "preview" link for monobook. Then, I changed the monobook part of the url to "azure," the directory of the teaser images. I did that for the other themes, too. Stalefries 17:49, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I was aware that a multitude of people would be able to figure this out, but the skin was really never kept much of a huge secret until the past two weeks (as badqueso pointed out above). It was actually selectable in Preferences while we worked on it, prior to two weeks ago. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 18:16, 17 March 2007 (UTC)

Song's Live Debut & Last Played[edit]

I was looking at the Thunderbird page today and noticed a piece of trivia that could be expanded for all song pages: Live Debut & Last Played. For some older songs, it would be difficult to pinpoint their exact debut but I think it would be a cool addition to the site. Any thoughts? JasonT 00:15, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

Live Debut I proposed on This Might Be A Wiki talk:TMBW To-Do List last year, and the idea didn't get very far. Last Played is a nice idea, but it'd be too tedious to update every song page for songs played after each show. All the Live Debut / Last Played factoids currently on song pages were all added by the same user, who just decided to go ahead with it himself I suppose. I think the main problem with adding a field to song pages based on when a song was first/last performed is that we don't have setlists for every show, so the date could easily be inaccurate. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 00:25, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

New Skin[edit]

Who made this? It is amazing... I'm talking about the orange and blue one that starts with an A for those who are wondering... I am far too sleepy to go look for myself to see which one it is. --Vixus 01:10, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

Read the front page news post. :) -CapitalQtalk ♪ 01:28, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Whenever I reach the bottom of a page, I really want to know what the center of the starburst looks like! :D Stalefries 03:20, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
[3] 12:23, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
I'm browsing with Safari so I checked the screenshot of what the site looks like in FF, and I was surprised to see that I didn't have the starburst in Safari. Then I realized it's just because my browser window is a lot wider than expected. Nice work on that one guys :P -- Miles 00:58, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Does the font on the new skin look really cruddy for anyone else? It looks all pixelated for me. I'm using Firefox It hurt my eyes enough to motivate creating an account and changing my preferences :).
The default design is lovely, but for some reason causes my computer to really strain when scrolling down it. As such it scrolls jerkily, and really slowly. So I created an account, and changed it back to the old style!! Russ 23:51, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, I had to switch back to the old skin; the new ones were not doing so hot in IE. --Salt-Man Z 18:45, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I think that's because of the transparency around with the side-boxes and main page. 00:35, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

Wow! This is the first time I've popped over here in a few months, and I'm amazed by the new skin! It's beautiful! --Jinya (from

Don't get me wrong, I love the new skin, but it doesn't say "wiki!" to me. The entire purpose of a wiki was content. This includes content over presentation. It was a simple way to look things up on the go. Wiki. Fast. And I fear that the complexities of the new skin may scare people away. 03:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

XM radio show[edit]

hey, this might sound stupid, but can somebody tell me what time it is in "EST" right now? John's show is at 10pm EST april first, and i want to make sure i've got the time diference so that I don't miss it.. thanks. I really don't know time differnces.. I've got like 9:41 pm right now Jade

((Would the time at the bottom of the screen time be EST?)
EDT (we're on daylight savings now) is one hour earlier than your current time. So, tune in at 11. Also, the time at the bottom of the page is set to the time in your preferences. --badqueso 01:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

--One More Question!-- I'm realy worried about missing it, so don't mind the questions... it says channel 76... this is the rght titles and what not right

"Ch 76 Fine Tuning Lifestyle Eclectic Mix from Celtic to the Blues"

? or is there another one hidden somewhere? -- also, when i go to the website right now there no sound... are they playing something now? or will the sound all start at 10? I've never used XM radio before, sorry

Wookiees! :D[edit]

Happy 4/1 everyone! Fantastic works, Mr. Mr. And Mrs. Nuclears! This rocks hard! XD -- 14:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks...we worked pretty hard on it, for a couple of weeks. So, now that you have all seen it, how about we do a little contest? Find all the "word replacements" that we have done, and send us an email to by midnight Pacific time (3 am Eastern). Whoever gets the most correct will win $9.99 that you can use towards downloading your copy of The Else from the TMBG Download Store or iTunes. (You need to have PayPal in order to claim your prize.) Now, of course, we can't make you use it towards your could buy crack or pornography with it...We'll just have to trust you.

Put your answers in this format, please:

  1. 1 old phrase -> new phrase
  2. 2 old phrase -> new phrase
  3. 3 old phrase -> new phrase

-and so on.

Also, we might be adding more replacements throughout the day, so be're definitely hitting a moving target! --Duke33 14:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

One more thing. For anyone that wants to turn the wookie-fied version off, you can add "?chewie=no" to the end of any page's url. If you want to see the original version of a single page, the "printable version" should still be the original. --Duke33 15:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

- can't believe I won, pretty psyched. Now I can totally buy 10$ worth of porn and crack, ha, no seriously its probably going towards The Else or something else TMBG related Jade

The Wookie thing is hilarious. This skin should be available all the time, though! Haha. -Cronny
Okay, "wielded" is GENUIS! And the pictures are cracking me up! --Wetreplies 20:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Wow...I don't know if i should be offended or not. On Wikipedia's April 1, 2007 page, someone had put our site on the list of sites that did April Fools jokes. However, someone edited the page, and removed the "non-notable" sites, including us. Grrrrr....--Duke33 00:35, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

This rocks![edit]

I absolutely love the new wookie-themed website. You guys must have put so many hours into this to make it so amazing. Thank you.--Mr.klaw 21:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

My goodness, you guys are hilarious. :) Though I have the monobook skin usually,(though Azure is pure genius!) I had to switch to this for today! You guys are great. I knew you were up to something! --Lemita 00:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

Is there any way that we can keep the color scheme that was introduced yesterday? I like it much better than this one. I'd just turn on the wookie-ness, but then I wouldn't get the true wiki.-- 01:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Yep - check it out. Go to your skins page (under preferences) and look for the "Deciduous" skin. --Duke33 13:15, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

TMBG Vs. The Police[edit]

Say it ain't so, Joe! Sorry guys, going against the Johns and voting for Sting. *ducks* — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 09:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC) chat[edit]

I'm trying to get on the chat room and when i click "Login to chat" it brings me back to the main page - Goodtimes2 April 8th 2007

Fixored. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 15:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Ask A Ninja[edit]

I don't know whether this counts as notable enough to go on the main page, but today's episode (May 4th) of Ask A Ninja namedrops TMBG at the end. Just so you know. -anon

I think it's worthy. But I'm equally anonymous, so what do we know? ;)

Might be worthy, but he called them quirky. That's probably an automatic shun. --Droffats 00:08, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

Nice Touch[edit]

I like the Flansburgh head on the bottom of the pages. Nice subtle way to celebrate. -- 21:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

I'm using the MonoBook skin, so it's more noticeable to me. And I like it, too! Akagi 21:27, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
What? Of course! *Smacks head* I, um... I didn't notice it. Sorry! Kudos for the idea, though.

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles[edit]

My younger brother was watching "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Fast Forward" and he told me that in the episode "Bad Blood", there is a two-headed man whose heads look like Flansburgh and Linnell. I was highly skeptical, but I found the episode online, and took a screenshot. Could this be a reference to TMBG? What do you think? Coincidence, or done on purpose?

--Mosesofthecows 00:21, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

Though I'm not sure, I'd lean towards it being done on purpose. Left one has the major characteristics of Flansburgh (roundish face, semi-short black hair, square glasses. Right one has a narrower face and longish wavy brown hair. Just that alone wouldn't really make me think it's a TMBG reference, but Linnell and Flans don't really have the facial characteristics of the typical scary two-headed evil dude, and I don't think there'd be much of a good reason besides this for putting those kinds of faces on Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle enemy. So yeah, that's pretty cool if it was meant to reference the Giants. ~ magbatz
Can I find this video anywhere? I haven't checked youtube yet, but I'd like to see this! Jade
It's definitely intentional. And your brother wasn't the first to find this. :) -CapitalQtalk ♪ 01:51, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh man! I thought he'd stumbled upon something the TMBW Community had never seen before! Oh well. There's always next time. --Mosesofthecows 01:59, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

Error reaching wiki?[edit]

Last night (about 17 hours ago, for you in different time zones) when I tried to open the wiki (in IE7)(main page specifically), I got an Error 500 message, something about the website being under maintenance. Other websites worked fine, so I don't know if it was just me, but I wanted to find out what was going on. Anyone know? -curious and questioning (t) 19:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

Wow, you missed the sitenotice by 10 minutes. Hah. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 19:48, 29 May 2007 (UTC)[edit]

I came across this site while investigating the existence of something TMBG did in 1990 called "Grumpfest". Here's a list of what they have in the 't' section that's relevantish. I've only heard of the '89 tour. You? -TDK 15:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The TMBG 1987 Bring Me the Head of Kenny Rodgers tour.
The TMBG 1989 Don't Tread on the Cut-Up Snake Tour
The TMBG 1995 That Pioneer Spirit Tour
The TMBG 2002 Cartoon Network Tour.
The TMBG Grumpfest '90 Tour
The statue got me high -- TMBG
The sun is a mass of incandescant gas -- TMBG
There's an Ant Crawling up your back in the nighttime -- TMBG
They Might Be Giants' newest album: FLOOD
They Might Be Giants, BWAH, They Might Be Giants
This is a recording -- TMBG Remix
Tho' the guy's a pig, we know what he wants -- TMBG

I have no clue what that website's about, but if TMBG's 1987 tour was called the 'Bring Me the Head of Kenny Rogers Tour', then, well, that's one more reason I love them. ~ magbatz 23:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)... also, apparently the Don't Tread on the Cut Up Snake tour was in 1992, in support of Apollo 18. and by the way, what was Grumpfest? I've never heard of it... ~ magbatz 23:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
Grumpfest was the tour when one of the Johns got grumpy. Can't remember who though.

RSS Feed[edit]

Seeing as there's no official one, I made an RSS feed of the Recent News on the main page for my own use using Since it's so useful, I thought maybe someone with the authority to edit the main page might want to add the proper code to allow others to use it. At any rate, the url is for anyone interested. --Scottus0 03:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Lineup Page[edit]

Anyone else feel that we need a lineup page to show TMBG's different members throughout the years? --liam (wtf?) 22:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I like it. -J2

You mean something similar to "Evolution of Man"? Or a comparison chart? --Dunklekuh81 14:56, 14 July 2007 (UTC)