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Shows a song has been played at

How about a new page on each song page that lists each show the song has been played at? For example the TLA venue song would link to the TLA show in 2004 and 2006, etc. It would be handy to see how rarely a song is played live and the last time they played it. Just a thought.

Click "What links here" on the bottom left of any song page. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 19:07, 20 Jun 2006 (MDT)

News RSS?

I think it'd be nice to have the Current Events available as an RSS feed, too. Would this be a good idea? -Ecks

Sounds like a good idea to me. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 21:31, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)

Any idea on how to do that? I don't know if there is a way in mediawiki to create an RSS feed for a single page. If someone can find out, let me know.--Duke33 22:06, 31 Jan 2006 (EST)

Here. I dunno, good information is strangely scarce. -Ecks

According to meta (a treasure trove of mediawiki info), there's no way to do it for a single page, at least for right now. If this is something we're really interested in, I could probably create one using PHP though. --Duke33 09:19, 1 Feb 2006 (EST)

Try this - [1] . Please let me know how it looks...This is just a first stab, so if it's not working, i'm not surprised! --Duke33 23:04, 2 Feb 2006 (EST)

Well, I don't have Firefox with me, but on Google's personalized home page, all of the titles came up as "Current Events". So while it worked, I vote to tweak it so that it shows some of the news. -Ecks

Ok, I have two solutions for you guys. First is Wotzwot. With Wotzwow, you point them to a webpage and pick out unique strings from the HTML source to mark where RSS items start and end. I played with it for a little while and came up with this. The genereator split up the items fine, but it did not detect the Titles from the Desctiption. Which makes for ugly RSS in the aggregator. So I did a little more searching and found a program called RSS Wizard. Which does the exact same thing as Wotzwot except it allows you to choose strings for the Title. The drawback though is you have to schedule the program to generate the RSS instead of it constantly updating online like Wotzwot. But RSS Wizard does have an option to upload the generated RSS file to an FTP server. Hope this helps you guys. Edit: I found another program that, with a quick glance, looks like RSS Wizard. Auto HTML-RSS Update --Droffats 14:51, 25 Apr 2006 (CDT)

What about RSSPECT? --Salt-Man Z 12:04, 10 May 2006 (CDT)

I was listening to the latest FLOSS weekly (at twit.tv) and they had Jimmy Wales (Founder of Wikipedia) on. He talked about WikiNews for a little and some of the problems they have with RSS not being part of the MediaWiki code (which this is based on). What he said they do is do RSS through FeedBurner.com. Not sure on the details, but that's how another MediaWiki site does RSS. -Briguyd 23:39, 29 May 2006 (CDT)

Fan-made videos

Moved to Talk:Videos.

THE POWER OF DIAL-A-SONG Compilations

Hello, everyone. Who has these infamous compilations?? I want them so bad, my head just might explode with envy right now! I was e-mailing someone on this site a while back who had them. I'll do ANYTHING. Thanks for any and all help. noveus@hotmail.com

I REALLY want these as well! Someone please send me some info or something at theillmasta@gmail.com -Ill masta

Remix/Mashup category?

I wonder if there should be a category for remixes and mashups (like, for instance, the incredibly dirty- yet hilarious- Lil Kim mashup linked to in the latest Flans e-mail). I think TMBG fans would be interested to hear fan-made remixes and mashups, and this page could list and perhaps link to them, as well as track offical remixes (by Joshua Fried, the Dust Brothers, etc.). The only problem is the legality of linking to these songs- although, judging from the amused response to the Lil Kim mix I don't think the Johns mind things like mashups. -Martorano

Here Come The 1-2-3's?

According to this:[2] article... TMBG is going to put out a 'Here Come The 1-2-3's' album in the spring. Is there any thruth to this..? 'Cause I sure haven't heard anything about it. -INeedACrane

Hmm... I hesitate to take this at face value. I'm thinking that the reporter may have heard someone ask them about doing a follow-up called that durring their publicity tour for the ABCs set and misunderstood. -Cronny

Actually, I was thinking the exact same thing, because this seems to be the only recorded place that says anything about this. I'm sure there would be something else about it somewhere, because it is spring already, after all. -INeedACrane

Spring just started. I'm sure we'll start hearing more about it soon. If not, I guess we can't trust New Jersey newspapers anymore. ;) -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 18:39, 20 Mar 2006 (CST)

Hold on a second... we could trust New Jersey newspapers at one time? Has anyone put this question to Operator Dot? Tutt 12:08, 20 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Just asked Dot, she says "I don't believe that is accurate". So, there you go. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 12:23, 20 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Does anyone else think that the article was wrong and, though there probably will be a Here Come The 123s!, it meant TMBG's Mysterious Next Album will be released this spring? That seems much more likely and would coincide nicely with their new tour. --badqueso 00:18, 14 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Review Links?

I had an idea for something that could be added to each album's page: links to external reviews (Pitchfork, Rolling Stone, Spin, etc.) What does everyone think? --Martorano

I think that's a great idea. -Cronny

I think it would be cool if there was a user reviews feature. Ideally, it would be set up by a system that would allow you to go to the album page and hit a button that generats your own review page. However, I am not a coder, but hey! It's an idea! -tomthefirst

I don't think user reviews are such a good idea. This is a TMBG fan site, so most of us have a bias. Maybe a rating system for the albums like the one already in place for the songs? --Martorano

I'll get to the album voting soon...have a couple other things that i'm working on now, like moving the downloads.--Duke33 05:59, 23 Mar 2006 (CST)

Cool, thanks! --Martorano

What are we doing to pigs?

Maybe I'm just a bit TMBG-happy after calling to Dial-A-Song, but... On the Daily Show, if you saw it tonight, there was a little 3-second ditty singing the name of the segment ("What are we doing to pigs?"). And although I'm anything but sure, I think I might have heard Flansy's voice as part of the vocals. ~ Magbatz 22:46, 29 Mar 2006 (CST)

I'm almost positive it was Flans. --Martorano

TMBG does the music, according to the most recent email bulletin.

Also, it's at the end of Podcast 6B.

TMBG albums in the new iPod ad?

I'll give 20 bucks a firm handshake to anyone that can spot a TMBG album in the new iPod ad. --Droffats 00:43, 10 Apr 2006 (CDT)

After watching it frame-by-frame, I saw many awesome 'hidden' albums that you can't notice on TV, like Franz Ferdinand's debut album, Green Day's Dookie, and Yes's Close To The Edge and Fragile. But I searched and searched and didn't see TMBG anywhere. :( -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 19:54, 9 Apr 2006 (CDT)

I was looking and I couldn't find it. Aww... =( --Lemita 08:39, 11 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Yeah I look for one every time I see that ad. Every once in a while my eyes trick me in to thinking I can see The Spine.

I thought I saw Apollo 18 for a split second. But I'm not exactly the best looker, seeing as I get sidetracked finding Barenaked Ladies and the Beastie Boys almost everywhere in the ad.~ magbatz 12:48, 15 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Mickey Mouse song

Is the new song on that Disney page linked to in the news? If so, where do I have to look? I couldn't find it anywhere. - Whirrrlwind 16:59, 10 Apr 2006 (CDT)

[3] :D -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 17:15, 10 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Another TMBG Song in a Dunkin' Doughnuts Thing

I'm watching tv, and I just saw a commercial for some icee/coffee thing from Dunkin' Doughnuts and there was a TMBG song in it. It had something to do with a kid in a tree who didn't want to come down. Pretty sure it was Flans singing, but I only caught the tail end of it.

Neat, haven't seen that one yet. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 18:14, 17 Apr 2006 (CDT)

That was me; just created an account. I'm hoping it'll come on again, but I've only seen one of the new commercials so far. -Valerie

Definitely just saw another one too, it was called "Planting a Broom" or "Packing a Room", I can't tell which. Probably the second because it had to do with a family packing before a trip. Definitely. -AtionSong 20:20, 17 Apr 2006 (CDT)

-The line is "Plenty of Room."

Does anyone know if TMBG is the only one making Dunkin' Donut ads? I've heard another "Runs On Dunkin'" ad on the radio a few times and I'm calling it "Snack Machine." It's sung by a female that I don't recognize and could quite possibly be 'not TMBG'. Though if someone told me it was Them, I'd believe them. So has anyone else heard it? Or does anyone trust my hard-of-hearing-ness enough to make a page for it? --badqueso 23:46, 4 May 2006 (CDT)

I saw some commerical on tv, with these kids yelling actives they play while in there car for dunkin donuts which sounded like tmbg, a few times. - Half Empty 12:13, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

I could be wrong, but I think that this is another TMBG Dunkin' Donuts commercial found on YouTube. I'd call it Karate!, but I won't make a page for it unless someone else agrees with me. ~Drew

It sounds like Flans to me. Unfortunately these commercials seem to get worse as we go along. --badqueso 01:53, 27 Jun 2006 (MDT)

I actually liked this one. But you're right, I didn't much like the Lunch Is Over one, which can also be found on YouTube. I still haven't seen or heard One Billion Degrees, so the jury's still out on that one. Now I'm going to take Badqueso's comment as agreement and make that Karate! page.

Oh, and I still wish someone would post high-quality audio rips for Lunch Is Over, One Billion Degrees, Karate!, and any other TMBG Dunkin' commercials that might be out there on the TMBW.Net MP3s page . . . ~Drew

OOOH!

[4] The thing 18:47, 25 Apr 2006 (CDT)

What's the "oooh" about? The file doesn't appear to be archived. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 18:52, 25 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Hey, look here: Download:Theme For Thesmokinggun.Com

Best Band Picture

Listen up "They might be Giants" fans, I have a dilemma.

Over at Wiki Guitar we have a section for tabs. The section is great, it has the capacity to grow very well. Anyway, it's structured in a way such that each artist has a featured picture so you can see what they look like.

There is no picture for They might be Giants, and I have only begun transferring the tabs over. Anyway, I need to find a good picture for you fellas!

I have had a lot of trouble with spam, so you have to login, but I took the hassle out of creating a new account:

Username:tmbw password:awesome

Please, login and upload a picture of the band, and the best one will be chosen!

Thanks.

I like this one very much. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 08:42, 26 Apr 2006 (CDT)

2007?!

I'm not sure I trust that article's source (nor do I want to). Atleast to me, it seems like things with the new album have been going much faster than a 2007 releast-date would imply. It's only late-April. I'm still counting on an '06 release-date. -Cronny

I'm pretty sure it's just an estimated date, but don't get your hopes up. It could be true. :( -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 09:56, 26 Apr 2006 (CDT)

That kinda depressed me too. I'm hoping it comes out sooner that '07, but anything anytime is always good. --Valerie 19:57, 26 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Anything but summer/spring 2007! I don't wanna waaaaiiiit! But y'know, it could be wrong, but it's probably true... --Lemita 19:17, 27 Apr 2006 (CDT)

It's most definitely confirmed now. Ah well. --Valerie 20:36, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

new Bed-Bed-Bed-ish releases? no?

On the 2005 page, there was something indicating that news had arisen about "Two more book projects with Simon and Schuster" being in the works. And a look back to the mailing list archive shows this:

TMBG is also happy to announce we will be creating two more book-and-CD sets for Simon & Schuster (the fine publishers who brought you "Bed, Bed, Bed"). We'll embark on the first new book this fall while I'm working nights in NYC in the extended run of the off-Broadway production of "People Are Wrong!" at the Vineyard Theater. It's too soon to announce the titles, but this next one will definitely be for young adults, or really old kids.

Anyone know whatever came of that. To my knowledge, I don't think Simon & Schuster are with Disney, so I don't think they were talking about Here Come The ABCs! (unless they ditched S&S for Disney Sound).

This Just In

On my websites bashing move, I noticed a new news item on http://tmbg.com -
COMING IN A WHILE: TMBG is contributing a song to CG feature Coraline and A Day for Wilbur Robinson, as well as the soundtrack for an animated short entitled Moongirl.
Woo! - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 09:33, 30 Apr 2006 (CDT)

I found more info on moongirl here. Just click on "Projects"; "Moongirl". Looks sweet! -AtionSong 12:26, 30 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Oh, and Coraline too. -12:27, 30 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Awesome...has anyone read the books? Neil Gaiman is fantastic, and Dave McKean is my favorite artist of all time. I read somewhere that the Magnetic Fields were doing some music for Coraline as well; if TMBG and the Magnetic Fields got together I think I'd just die. --Martorano

Ha-ha, ironic... I just read Coraline last year for a school project (I had to "become" her in a speech)... I hope the song (and the movie!) is any good. =) Coraline is fantastic, a TMBG-esque book. Y'know, their whole darker bits of songs... Wow, cool.--Lemita 18:00, 2 May 2006 (CDT)

I know it makes me an ass for pointing it out, but nothing about that is ironic. It's just coincidental. Sorry, pet peeve of mine... -Cronny

arbitrary song meanings

This might sound somewhat stupid, but don't you think that perhaps the meaning of the songs is something that we can't know because they're way too personal, or because the songs only mean something if we establish our own meanings for them? What if they don't have any meaning at all and we're supposed to fill in the blanks? Or what if there are no blanks to be filled, that they are meaningless?

Well, duh. ~scottus0

Conservative Fans

Is anyone else here a conservative TMBG fan?

I am. ~Drew

Socially conservative or economically conservative? --Martorano

If you mean socially, you probably didn't like what they said during Why Does The Sun Shine at one of their recent concerts: "At a Seattle concert (Nov. 7, 2005) at the Moore theater, Flansburgh instead said 'The heat and light from the sun are caused by the nuclear reaction between a failed foreign policy, a failed domestic policy, and a failed presidency.'" -Cronny

That's brilliant! How long do you think the song would be if he listed everything the president has completely bungled? You'd need an intermission. --Martorano

God what I wouldn't have given to be there... I hope they say that when I see them, which will hopefully be soon, but who knows? -Cronny

It's hard to be a conservative TMBG fan, since at least one of them is a Liberal and most of thier fans are too.

He said that at the St. Louis show 5/6/06 as well- I freaked.

I don't know how hard it would to still be a fan- I love Morrissey, but I'm not a vegetarian. I guess the in-your-face liberalism would get old really fast though. --Martorano

I don't know how "in-your-face" it is. Aside from the MoveOn.org CD and this new version of The Sun, there's not much else. -Cronny

That's true, Flans isn't exactly Al Franken, ha ha. --Martorano

Yar. - Doug the Aquacell Guy 09:51, 23 May 2006 (CDT)

Maybe you guys are right. I probably shouldn't focus on political opinions of bands I like.

Hahaha! I was the one who put that Seattle concert note there. I downloaded that show and HAD to share it with everyone! By the way, I'm pretty liberal. You should hear the Johns RIPPING on Bush throughout the concert. Maybe because They knew they were in the Liberal Left Coast, because the audience loved it, too. We don't like our Bush up here in the Pacific Northwest. Also, Call Connected Thru the NSA is pretty awesome, too. I wrote the lyrics up on the board of my Humanities class and my instructer liked it so much she kept it up for a week! HA!

BTW, Here's a little transcript of said ripping:

Linnell: Remeber back when we were Republicans? Wasn't that crazy?
Flans: Yeah
Linnell: I was like "This war is gonna be grreat! It's gonna be GRREAT!"
Flans: I give it three weeks max. Three weeks. They got no idea. Yeah, it's a mess....Alright the pundit part's over.
--tehbagel ( o ) 09:31, 14 May 2006 (CDT)

Can I ask what you guys don't like about George W. Bush? Between this and hearing about them being jerks to a fan, I find it hard to listen to the music.

Do you really want to open up this can of worms? Here is just a short list of complaints I have about the current administration: 1. The gradual reduction of freedoms in the name of "preventing terrorism". The truth is, none of us are really safer. 2. There have been accusations of trying to find the source of leaks (NSA story). Why would the government do this unless it had something to hide? 3. What people don't realise is that our government is supposed to be working for us, we appoint them to protect our best interests, and I feel the government is moving alarmingly quick to totalitarian mode. 4. The rich are getting richer, and the poor are getting poorer. This administration is in the back pocket of big businesses, so much so that the average American is well aware of and considers it normal. This is an atrocity. 5. I believe that George Bush has committed treason against his country, and continues to lie to us. The fact that he isn't behind bars for the death of thousands of soldiers troubles me. 6. As Benjamin Franklin said, "Those who are willing to trade freedom for safety do not deserve either."

As soon as I have the required work experience, I'm moving to Canada. America is quickly moving toward a dictatorship. Did you hear about Bush talking about why his brother Jeb would be a good successor? Can you say "monarchy"?--tehbagel ( o ) 15:00, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

I wonder if there are liberal Alan Jackson fans? Or liberal Toby Keith fans? Can you be a fan of Eminem and not be a homophobe? Can you like Bob Marley and not smoke pot? I think this is an interesting discussion. And tehbagel has only skimmed the surface of what is drastically wrong with the current administration. What about Katrina? What about the constitutional admendment banning gay marriage? The erosion of church and state, the castration of life-saving scientific research involving stem cells? I hope that there are a lot of non-Americans on this wiki, because I want you guys to know a lot of people in this country feel the same way about Dubya that you do. I'm not a fan of the Democrats, either (I'm a Libertarian), but if we don't start seeing the tide change a little bit I'm going to write my own protest album. -Martorano

I don't want to get into trouble on here, because like everyone else here, I love TMBG, so I don't want to make enemies. But could someone explain to me (briefly) exactly how they think the separation of church and state is being messed up? Also, George W. Bush is a conservative, so you have to expect him to support conservative political policies--like banning gay marriage and stopping stem cell research. So saying that his support of these policies are examples of what's "drastically wrong with the current administration" is like me saying that support of legalized abortion is an example of what was "drastically wrong with former administrations." Sure, that may be my opinion, but supporting abortion is a liberal policy, so it should be expected of liberal administrations. So while someone may think that Bush's conservative policies are examples of things wrong with the world, that's just that person's opinion. And as much as someone may hate those policies, there are a lot of people who support them, and Bush's support of them shouldn't come to anyone as some kind of outrageously unexpected surprise. Some of the other points brought up above may seem a bit more grey, but does everyone at least see my point?

So with that said, I have to now second the idea that this is a can of worms we may not want to spend too much time on. Some people love Bush and some people hate him. But we all love TMBG, so let's focus on that (though you can still answer my question about "the erosion of church and state"). Also, I'd be pretty surprised if the Johns really ever treated fans like jerks just because the fans were conservatives. (Assuming the fans didn't start some kind of fight themselves . . .) ~Drew

PS: I get the point of the quote, but it's probably not a Franklin quote, and it's also a misquote. For more on that, go here

Drew, the erosion of the seperation of church and state is pretty evident. The president has changed regulations preventing faith-based groups from recieving federal funding- in fact, 2.1 billion dollars were awarded to faith-based groups last year alone, which is about 11% of federal money awarded to community groups. The whole gay marriage ban is based upon the Biblical theory of homosexuality as an abomination, and the religious tradition of marriage being between a man and a woman. George Bush means to alter our Constitution based on a religious principle, and I find this supremely troubling. You make some good points about Bush's policies being conservative policies, and I guess some of them are a matter of opinion, but discrimination and human progress shouldn't be liberal or conservative issues. By discrimination I mean the denial of rights to certain Americans- in this instance, gays, who can now join the ranks of Native Americans, African-Americans and women who have been afforded less rights than the majority. Once, women weren't allowed to vote or own land, and now gay people can't marry or adopt a child. To me, this is clearly discrimination, and anyone who supports discrimination is always in the wrong. And when I talk about human progress I of course mean stem cell research, which scientists estimate could save millions of lives, drastically increase our lifespans, and virtually eliminate many common bodily ailments. I understand that this site probably isn't the best forum to openly and freely discuss these issues, but it was brought up, so I'm merely stating what I (and, apparently, a lot of TMBG fans) believe. -Martorano

Exactly. The argument that conservatives give for being against stem cell research basically boils down to "we shouldn't have to sacrifice the innocent lives of the few for the good of the many", even though it is debatable how "alive" fetuses are. However, isn't what we are doing in Iraq, sacrificing the lives of innocent troops in order to set up some kind of government, the same thing? There is a level of hypocracy in Government that makes me red in the face. Listen: I am ALL FOR you being against abortion. I don't care if you think it's "right" or "wrong", but don't push your beliefs upon others by making them law. If you don't like abortion, fine, don't be involved in them, but why should your beliefs be law to anybody? Why do conservatives feel the need to force their opinions and beliefs (especially ones that are backed up by, "God says ______ is wrong/right") upon the masses? How religion can EVER be used as an argument in any kind of debate appalls me. Just because of the fact that one may think homosexuality is wrong, doesn't mean they can discriminate against gays. They are people and deserve the rights guarenteed to them by the constitution. I guess that's my libertarian streak showing. The founding fathers were very afraid of government doing exactly what it is doing right now, and it's why they wrote in the Second Amendment, the right to form a militia (the whole point of bearing arms) so the government has to fear the people. It is every true patriot's duty to question the government at every step, and fix what is broken.--tehbagel ( o ) 10:33, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

I'm not sure if some of you guys really understand the purpose of the separation of church and state. When it was created, it had to do mainly with preventing what has happened so often in Europe and other areas of the world in the past--one religion gaining control of a nation and persecuting or outlawing all other religions, etc. It had nothing to do with federal funding to faith-based (or non-faith-based) community groups, etc. It also had nothing to do with protecting the "right" of atheists to not have any exposure to religious material in puplic places, schools, etc.--an argument often used recently by those who think that all traces of religion should be erased from public life and that every religious person is some kind of crazed fanatic. But I'm going to leave the rest of these issues alone to avoid contention and anger on the wiki, other than to point out that enough people agree with Bush and traditional, conservative Judeo-Christian values for Bush and others like him to get elected. As someone said above, "our government is supposed to be working for us," so you can't blame a conservative official for supporting the conservative policies of the millions of conservative people that elected him or her, whether or not you agree with them. So liberals have to remember that the liberal beliefs and opinions they might have are not as "self-evident" or unquestionably "correct" as they may think, since about half of the nation seems to disagree with them. And, of course, the reverse side of that is true as well--about half of the nation disagrees with conservatives. ~Drew

Drew, you make a good point about the origin of the church/state seperation in the United States. However, and this is something of a cliche, how would a Christian feel if Vishnu or Allah were represented on the currency, or in the Pledge, or uttered by the President following the State of the Union address? How would a Catholic feel having to swear upon the Koran or even "Dianetics"? (That was a lame joke, sorry.) The seperation of church and state is to protect everybody, so that, like you said, no one religion gains too much control, which is unfortunately what we're seeing in the current political climate. The religious right has a lot of sway in our country, and are constantly pandered to by conservatives for fear of losing their votes. You point out that there are a lot of people that agree with Bush, and that's true, but a lot of people agreed that the world was flat. A lot of people packed the Roman colosseums to watch Christians being fed to lions. A lot of people owned slaves. Just because something is popular does not in any way make it right. --Martorano

Similarly, the fact that gay marriage and other such issues are popular among many people now does not make them right. That argument goes both ways. ~Drew

Yes, it does, but in the case of gay marriage I'd argue that anyone not in favor of it perhaps needs a bit of a history lesson. Like I said, this country has a very sad history of denying rights to certain sectors of its population- women, African-Americans and other minorities. Interracial marriage was illegal until 1967. Not to mention slavery or segregation, or forcing Native Americans onto reservations. Or Asian-Americans into internment camps. I'm certainly not going to compare slavery to the proposed ban on gay marriage, but how is denying a gay couple the right to get married any different than not allowing an African-American the right to vote? Or would you have that right stripped away? I know that was a low blow, but it's a question that has to be asked: if you support certain people having more rights than others based on who they are, what's to say you're not opposed to allowing only white Christian males to vote? Or own land? --Martorano

While I don't agree with any of the types of discrimination you mention from America's past (which, in reality, isn't any sadder than anyone else's past, since large portions of the world still had the same types of discrimination when we did, and some still do NOW), I don't think banning gay marriage is discrimination because, among other reasons, I think marriage, by definition, has to involve a member of each sex. And a lot of Americans (among others) agree with me, as I've mentioned and as many recent elections prove. Slaves were denied freedom, while others had freedom. Blacks were denied the right to vote, while others had that right. But gays are denied gay marriage, as is everyone else. There's no difference between "white freedom" and "black freedom" or between "white voting" and "black voting." But there is, in my opinion, a fundamental difference between traditional marriage and gay marriage, as much as people now are trying to "redefine marriage" (hence the re- in the phrase). So I guess I'll have to use a couple cliches and say that this is neither the time nor the place for this discussion, so we'll just have to agree to disagree. ~Drew

If I may, though: you say that marriage has to, by definition, involve a member of each sex. I wonder what you base that on? Religion? Tradition? I'm not trying to be hostile, I'm honestly curious. By the way, even though we obviously disagree, thank you for being clear, concise, and respectful- so many times it's easy to resort to childish name-calling and finger-wagging, and I admire someone who can stand up for what they believe in in a mature fashion. --Martorano

Marriage is a religious observance, hence the wedding. Marriage was created by and for religion. If homosexual couples feel they must share the same benefits as a marriage, almost all states offer civil unions.

To Drew: Oops! I think I should have been more clear. The Johns weren't (supposedly) mean beacause the fans were conservative. They were just all around (supposedly) unfriendly. JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS, I AM NOT SAYING I BELIEVE THEY WERE JERKS. I DO NOT MEAN TO SPREAD RUMORS. I JUST READ IT ON TOONZONE FROM SOMEONE WHO I FIND TO BE RELIABLE. I DO LIKE TMBG! I'LL STOP TALKING IN CAPS... now. To Martorano: While my opinion on gay marriage is different than yours, I respect your respect for Drew's respect for your opinion.

I, too, am thankful for how respectful this conversation has been all around. Internet discussions about politics can be notoriously hateful, childish, and disrespectful, so I'm glad this one has been anything but. My beliefs on gay marriage are personal beliefs that are largely faith-based. "Tradition" strikes me as the wrong word, because I've seen what blind tradition can do to people. You've seen it--the person who can only explain his or her religious beliefs by saying, "I'm ________ (insert any given religious denomination here) because my parents are/were _________. It's a tradition." Or some variation thereof. Informed, personal religious beliefs would be a better term for my beliefs. Also, in large part I agree with the comment above that "Marriage is a religious observance, hence the wedding. Marriage was created by and for religion." And, if you're not against dragging out this conversation, Martoano, I think it would be only fair if you explained the origins of your beliefs a bit. I'd be interested to hear what you have to say.

I also appreciate the above explanation/clarification about the Johns being "jerks" from the unnamed creator of this thread. And, again, I appreciate the respectful discussion from Martorano and everyone else involved here. ~Drew

There is a personal reason I feel very strongly about this particular issue. I worked for about a year with a man in his sixties, a gay man who has been with the same partner for about forty years. Forty years! And they aren't allowed to marry, yet any heterosexual couple can go and get a quickie marriage from a drive-thru in Las Vegas. So that's why gay marriage kind of hits close to home for me. But, Drew, I think you're right: we should agree to disagree. --Martorano

It's agreed, then! :) Thanks for all of your comments. (Oh, and I'll try to briefly address everything below later.) ~Drew

I must put my two cents in: Drew, your statement that marriage is by religion for religion is grossly wrong. The word marriage was never used in religion until the goverment coined the phrase. The word that religion used for marriage was a hebrew word meaning "ownership", in that the man traditionally owned his woman; she was property. I don't recall the word right now, but I could get you the word tomorrow in my Bible As Literature class. Anyway, if you think marriage is just between a man and a woman, then don't be involved in same sex marriages. How does two gay men being married hurt you exactly? I don't understand why religious beliefs are being made into law that all have to follow. As Stephen Colbert greatly summed up a stab at the neo-cons, "I accept all, be you Muslim, Jewish, Christian, Hindu or Buddhist, no matter which path you choose to accepting Jesus Christ as your personal savior."--tehbagel ( o ) 14:25, 21 May 2006 (CDT)

I'm not touching the political debate, but I'm rather curious about what you heard "about them being jerks to a fan." What did they do exactly that was so terrible? I've had nothing but positive experiences when I've had the opportunity to interact with them, and I think the vast majority of fans would say likewise. — aliste 23:53, 19 May 2006 (CDT)

Drew: http://forums.toonzone.net/showthread.php?t=166729 Read Zubby's post for even more clarification. ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT THEY DID GET DONE WITH A CONCERT JUST RECENTLY, AND THEY MAY HAVE BEEN TIRED, JUST AS ZUBBY SAYS. No more caps!

Lack of Beardo downloads

I was dissapointed to hear this, but does anyone else think that rather than it signaling the end of the download store, it's just showing that they want to keep their new albums' songs under wraps? -Cronny

Exactly what I was thinking. Ecks

What is the source of this news item? Hasn't it always taken a while to get the shows up? Additionally, At the show in St. Pete they had audience mikes next to the confetti canons. --badqueso 12:24, 4 May 2006 (CDT)

That's a good point. But if the guy's source is correct, they may just be waiting until the album comes out to release the Beardo live shows. -Cronny

The guy had no source other than the fact that the theymightbegiants.com shows page lists "Not available" for the Beardo shows. Someone might've wrote that instead of "Coming soon"... -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 14:12, 4 May 2006 (CDT)

Maybe it was an insider... or not... -Cronny

Hee, I made the front page! I feel so special. —aliste

I certainly hope TMBG eventually releases the downloads from this tour. It would be a waste of a new digital mixer to keep the shows under wraps. And besides, they released shows that contained performances of songs from "Here Come the A-B-C's" before it had been released. -Reynoldbot

Seriously, it seems like goofy logic to hold them. I don't think anyone's going to say, "I've got live recordings of two tracks from the new album. I guess I won't buy it." Similarly, people likely would buy the downloads to get a couple tracks early. -Buschap

It may sound like goofy logic, but maybe the Johns noticed that a common complaint by reviewers about Mink Car was that so many of the songs on the album had already been available in other forms and on other releases, etc. Similarly, if you look at the "What songs do you hope will be on Their next album" section of the TMBG's Mysterious Next Album page, you'll notice that several people have put or supported things like "something new" or "something we've never heard before," etc. The Johns seem to be quite aware of their fans--and their reviewers, I'm sure--so they're probably just trying to learn from their past experiences. ~Drew

There could be a legal reason behind it.. remember, They don't even list the titles of the ABCs songs on their download page in shows that occured before the album came out.. maybe this time out, They can't even give us the live music. -TDK 06:10, 10 May 2006 (CDT)

I'm really disappointed about this... especially for all the US Servicemembers overseas who are unable to enjoy this year's tour through the live downloads. I hope that that doesn't mean that this tour will be lost forever, and that they can release it when their new album is out. -jesseg

KoL references

I just fixed one but I'm not eager to do them all. I'm not even sure if you want them on the wiki. If you do, however, and anyone wants fill them in, here's a comprehensive list and table of TMBG references in Kingdom Of Loathing: http://pop.shinketsu.net/search.php?seek=giants - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 09:15, 6 May 2006 (CDT)

MusicVid Announcement

I realize it's innapropriate to post a news item about a fan-vid, but would anyone be offended if I announced it here? This is more of an open forum, so I think it would be okay, but I'd like to know what you think before I do it. -Cronny

Theres been huge debates over whether fan vids should be allowed to be posted on the main page, or even on the specific song page. Im pretty sure that no one will be offended if you write it on this Talk page, but as far as I know the arguement favours that fan-made vids dont get mentioned on the Front Main Page. To read up on the arguement: Talk:Videos --AnklePants 22:07, 16 May 2006 (CDT)

Thanks, I was actually part of that discussion, but we never really touched upon the talk pages. Anyway, here's the link: http://newgrounds.com/portal/view/313104 if anyone gets mad I can blame you ;) -Cronny

Deal--AnklePants 06:17, 17 May 2006 (CDT)

Great video :) - repugnant

User locations

I was just wondering how far (gloabally speaking) TMBW users span. Maybe this could become a misc page. Please discuss. I was specific wondering if I am the sole user who is representing the entire continent of Oceania (what a responsability!)--AnklePants 06:25, 17 May 2006 (CDT)

Maybe "Location" could be one of the babel boxes for the user pages. -Martorano

Thats a good idea, coz then it doesnt have to specific, it can be rather general, such as American states or countries outside the US. I have no idea how to make babel boxes though. If anyone else is interested and know how...--AnklePants 08:07, 17 May 2006 (CDT)

I could get started on those tomorrow. Leave me a list of places on my talk page. Alternatively, I could set up a Frappr map. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 03:34, 21 May 2006 (CDT)

No Frappr. Another Wiki I know of does that and I hate it, since you have to give city too (right?) Personally I vote Babel boxes, ones for all 50 American states, the Canadian provinces, and then other countries. (Well, you know, other countries you'd -expect- to access a TMBG Wiki, and then if someone from say Slovenia comes up here and asks for a Babel box we can make him one.) I can help. - Doug the Aquacell Guy 10:07, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

What, you don't expect someone from Slovenia to like TMBG? That's rude! (P.S. Slovenia is a country right? It sounds like something from The Lord of the Rings). --Martorano 12:59, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

Yep. It's actually a new country that came out of the end of the Cold War. Actually, quite a few people over there may like the band. It's quite a bit better off than most other new (1990+) nations. (If Lord of the Rings took place on October 11th, Gandalf would've had THEY printed on his forehead. They're popular there too.) - Doug the Aquacell Guy 21:05, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

Or we could just type in what ever place we're from, like we would type in what ever our username is for one of the Wiki babel boxes. --Droffats 21:08, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

A Poll Question, Sort Of

I'm curious to see people's answers... a lot of unreleased TMBG songs are only circulating in really bad quality. Which one of these songs would you like to hear in prime quality?

I vote for "What Is Everyone Staring At?" Even in its early form, 'Sleepwalkers' had the making of a great tune.

I'd say either What Is Everyone Staring At, or maybe The Bloodboat. They both would've sounded great, and they still do, even if they're low quality. ~ magbatz

How about No Answer? Or--though I know it'll never happen--the adult version of Four Of Two? ~Drew

How could I have forgotten No Answer? That definitely trumps my other two favorites. And although I prefer the suicide version of Four Of Two, the No! one satisfies all my broken clock needs.

I have the pretty bad quality of No Answer on my mp3 player, and I absolutely love that song. =) I would love to have a nice quality version (or studio!) of that. --Lemita 11:27, 20 May 2006 (CDT)

I'd also like to hear studio versions of Coffee Table Of Love, A TMBG Song, Hi, Live Like Pigs, Reminder, Side 2, Welcome To The World, The Sun Is On Fire, The Writing's On The Wall, We Love All The People, and Titanic Fog. Then again, I'd also just like to hear the Dial-A-Song versions of those songs. Anybody have them? :)

Take a sneak peek to this page: Talk:Power Of Dial-A-Song. Our dearest fellow Liam uploaded some of these songs. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 05:12, 21 May 2006 (CDT)

COOLNESS! Thanks! :) That's a really cool Web site. Whenever I finally find a job and therefore have more (guiltless) free time, I'll have to post some of the rare stuff I have. BTW, Whirlwind, any more links like that on random pages/talk pages on here? ~Drew

None that I know of. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 06:34, 21 May 2006 (CDT)

Okay, okay--that wasn't really on topic. But really, would anybody else love to hear an album version of I'm Your Boyfriend Now, Kids Are Different Now, or Kings Of The Cave? Maybe even Sally Boy Candy Bar? (And you can still answer my question about having those DAS songs above . . .) ~Drew

Tumbleweed. -TDK 07:53, 21 May 2006 (CDT)

I'm going to have to say "No Answer", too. Awesome song. --Martorano

I'm Your Boyfriend Now, Kids Are Different Now, and Sally Boy Candy Bar. Three of my favoritest songs. And I only have them in crappy 32kbps quality. --Valerie 17:35, 23 May 2006 (CDT)

Kids Are Different Now always sounded way too...pop-punk for me. Does that makes sense? It sounds like Sum 41 or something. --Martorano

It's mimicking the style of 1994 (Dookie-era) Green Day. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 18:58, 23 May 2006 (CDT)

That's always been one of my favorite things about TMBG--they can write songs in so many different musical styles! ~Drew

William Allen White's head

Okay, so TMBG used it in a few concerts and video projects. It was always put in a context of other surreal and bizarre imagery. When I come here, I have to stare at that fuckin' head everywhere: as a background, site icon, everywhere. Even if the guy's supposed to be a mascot, that picture is way too ubiquitous. Where's the diversity of strange imagery that is the visual hallmark of TMBG? Why do you ONLY use that guy's head? TMBG's website is delightfully odd. This one is just... creepy and disturbing. 66.90.73.96 01:46, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

I would just like to note that User:Drew took it upon himself to censor the above comment, but did not feel it necessary to admit doing so or post attribution for the change. The word censored was the evil "f-word," you know, like the one in the TMBG concert favourite "Sorry I Fucked Up The Show". Thankfully, User:Drew has not yet seen fit to reprimand the Johns themselves for their horrible, horrible use of such vulgarity. Next time you see fit to alter someone else's comments, User:Drew, at least have the cojones to follow-up and admit what you've done. Puritans are supposed to be forthright, not cowardly. 66.90.73.96 06:06, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

So who went back and uncensored it? - Doug the Aquacell Guy 09:47, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

Checking the page's history or looking at the Recent changes would show you that the original poster put it back. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 14:27, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

It would, but, that would involve actual effort ;) - Doug the Aquacell Guy 17:41, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

If you consider three or four clicks effort. :D -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 18:38, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

If you don't like the logo, you can always change your skin under your preferences. --Duke33 07:41, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

I like the WAW head. Just my two cents. --Martorano 08:06, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

Agreed. Black-and-white 40's/50's heads are just wonderful. - Doug the Aquacell Guy 09:47, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

The picture was most likely taken during the 30's actually, judging by William Allen White's age in the image and the fact that he died in 1944. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 14:27, 24 May 2006 (CDT)

I'm sorry if I offended anyone, but I felt no need to mark a change like that, given the ease with which the source of the change could be found by checking the page's history or using the Recent Changes page and the fact that I wasn't adding a comment myself. You'll also note a little warning/disclaimer at the bottom of the page every time you edit or add to a page, which goes like this: "Please note that all contributions to This Might Be A Wiki may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you don't want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then don't submit it here." People edit the spelling, phrasing, grammar, and other content of my posts all the time, and I make minor changes (especially spelling) to others' posts as well. And given the fact that lots of kids like TMBG (like I did as a kid, though I didn't know them well), I just try to keep a public forum like this as free as possible from needless profanity. So sue me. I do, however, draw the line at changing the names of songs that I had nothing to do with the writing of. Just curious, but does anyone else have an opinion on this matter? I'm open to feedback. ~Drew

Editing someone else's work on an article and changing their signed comments on a talk page do not seem to fall into the same category. As far as "kids" and profanity are concerned, if it's not used to abuse or demean other posters I don't see the problem. They're just words, right? As a "kid" I read Mark Twain, Chaucer, Shakespeare, Heinlein, Salinger... all sorts of profane literature. Somehow I managed not to sprout horns and cloven hooves...

I personally don't see much wrong with swearing (well, with the exception of a few words, the f-bomb not being one) some people do, and it's best just to respect their wishes and keep the actual TMBW.net content clean. However, songs, song titles, shows, et cetera...keep them as they are. Puppets gonna screw you up =D - Doug the Aquacell Guy 14:37, 25 May 2006 (CDT)

Commission Junction

I noticed in the latest news post has a redirect-thingy in the front of the address. And that when Ecks attempted to get rid of it, it was reverted. Could you tell us what this is, Duke33? Doing a little research on it leads me to believe it's some sort of advertising technique. --Droffats 14:24, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

Yes - We have an affiliate program with eMusic, Napster, iTunes, Amazon, and other sites...We get paid for people that click through to emusic and then open up a subscription with them. So, i try to make sure that all emusic links on the site go through our affiliate program, in case someone clicks through and then signs up. --Duke33 14:27, 26 May 2006 (CDT)

Heh. My dad used to be the CFO of Commission Junction. I'd never actually seen them in action before.--Salt-Man Z 19:39, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

Random page

What about making the Lyrics, Chronology and Interpretations namespaces accessible for the Random page function? Is that possible at all? - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 10:39, 3 Jun 2006 (CDT)

Page Idea

WOuld anybody mind if I created a page "Tab Squad" where users who regularly create guitar tabs. It would contain a sign up sheet for regular contributators as well as a count of how many tabs they've created and then a list of songs that still need tabs and tabs that users think need improvement. Does this sound good? Can I go ahead and make it? -AtionSong 12:28, 3 Jun 2006 (CDT)

Sounds fine to me. :) -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 13:00, 3 Jun 2006 (CDT)

An Idea...

HOw come there isn't a "related songs" area in each music page? I think it would be helpful if you found your way to a live version of a song, when you wanted the album recording. Sorry if this is already somewhere and I missed it.--71.240.7.23 15:10, 4 Jun 2006 (CDT)

You were right but you don't have to be sorry for that. It's the chronology page for each song. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 15:21, 4 Jun 2006 (CDT)

Oh, thanks. I really should have searched thoroughly before I asked.

It's not really a matter of searching, there's a Chronology link on the bottom right of every song page. :) -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 16:43, 4 Jun 2006 (CDT)

I have no idea what to title this...

Well, a problem I've been seeing is things like Your Own Worst Enemy (Demo)'s song name is "Your Own Worst Enemy (Demo)", but the song's name is Your Own Worst Enemy, Your Own Worst Enemy (Demo). So, I guess I think we should just take off the "(Demo)" part out of song names, and stuff like that, because it's not the song's name, I guess. I could be totally wrong about this, but that's what I think and if there is a specific reason why the demo portion of the song name is totally intelligent and isn't really retarded, just explain it to me. --liam 09:20, 22 Jun 2006 (MDT)

I agree. The song name doesn't include descriptions about it's release or how we at the wiki differentiate them. --badqueso 13:06, 22 Jun 2006 (MDT)

Maybe you guys are looking at this wrong...but I think the only reason the field was called Song Name is because it sounds and fits a lot better than Version Name. In other words, how we have it set up now is the correct way, despite the fact that the line is called just "Song Name." -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 19:19, 22 Jun 2006 (MDT)

Knowledge Base

Hey, I don't mean to be a stickler, but this has been bugging me for a while, and now that it's on the main page twice (and in big letters one of those times), I have to point out that knowledge base is two words, not one. I would change it myself, but I don't know how to change the one at the top of the side bar. Also, for consistency's sake, we might want to pick either "The TMBG Knowledge Base" (what it says in the side bar) or "A TMBG Knowledge Base" (what it now says near the top of the main page). What does everyone else think? ~Drew

Done and done and done. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 22:02, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

Head?

Who is that cut-out head that the people wear in the Don't Lets Start music video? It's appeared numerous other times, I AM DYING TO KNOW!!!!! --Homfrog 19:23, 7 July 2006 (MDT)

You mean the one in TMBW's logo and in the big discussion about the head on this very page? See William Allen White. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 19:31, 7 July 2006 (MDT)

State Songs EP wanted!

Does anyone have the original 'Hello' EP, with the five early State Song mixes? If do you, email me at knawdas@hotmail.com. Thank you!!

It still appears on eBay for cheap from time to time. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 20:21, 7 July 2006 (MDT)

That's where I got it for pretty cheap just a few months ago. ~Drew

tmbg.org

On the discography at tmbg.org, there are a few things we don't have on here, e.g. - "Selections From The 2-CD Retrospective Then: The Earlier Years" and "New York City Live!!" (not Live!! New York City 10/14/94 for those who might think it is), so I was wondering whether I should put them on here? - ( Herwwiyal ? )

Go ahead. :) Nice finds. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 06:46, 8 July 2006 (MDT)

Main page tabs and links centered

L-R: IE, Firefox

Hello. I've noticed that the Main Page renders differently when viewing it in various browsers. Specifically, the tabs along the top and all the links along the left are centered in IE when they shouldn't be. I think the problem could be resolved if you removed the <center> tags before and after <h3>Site Map</h3> at the bottom. (You really should use CSS instead of <center> tags anyway, and there's a missing </div> at the end, but those are other discussions for other days.) Talk atcha later. — It's dot com 23:53, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Nice catch, fixed. :) -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 21:55, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

What is this Linnell single??

There are a couple copies of a strange single on eBay - it's "The Dream Lives On" by John Linnell, released in 1987... found it on a couple other sites too. I'm 99% sure it's NOT the real Linnell, but I thought it's worth a look: http://www.netsoundsmusic.com/nsudsii/2/204209435/1118/2.html

Hahahah, yeah, those have been on eBay forever. It's definitely not our Linnell. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 00:27, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Sandbox

After noticing the recent deletion of a page titled "Sandbox", it wade me wonder why we didn't have one in the first place? (Though, preferrably not in the main namespace.) It's practically a wiki standard like "Recent changes" "Whatlinks here" (usually referred to as "Back links"). — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:13, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

We sort of do already. I've used it a few times. I guess it's just not really advertised. These pages suggest using it to test and whatnot. Someone usually just deletes it after they're finished testing though. TMBaB's welcoming message leads to it's mention somewhat indirectly, but that's probably the only way people would know to use it. I wouldn't mind having a permanent page (meaning we don't just keep deleting it), and I would agree to keeping it out of the main namespace, but I don't think it would get much use as we probably wouldn't use it too often. And it would most likely encourage spamming and other nonsense, as people see the page's contents as inconsequential. --badqueso 22:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Spamming could easily be taken care of with a robots.txt file. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

I don't really see the need for a Sandbox. First off, as Badqueso said, we wouldn't really use it all that often. And secondly, if someone needs to, each user has their own personal space on the wiki to do pretty much anything they'd ever want to do, their username-page-whatchamacallit. When I've experimented here, I just clear off my current stuff from the page (if that's even necessary), test stuff, and then revert it back to how it was before. All nice and clean. ~ magbatz 23:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

dalnet

we gotta link to it on the main page. it's empty as shit --liam (wtf?) 03:27, 4 August 2006 (UTC)

Videos

So are we documenting the filming locations of any of the videos on TMBW? Just thought seeing as its not hard to tell where they're all filmed:

• Put Your Hand Inside the Puppet Head: N 8th St, Williamsburg
• Don't Let's Start: Tent of Tomorrow, Flushing Meadows-Corona Park
• Ana Ng: supposeldy a Fireman Training Grounds, Long Island
• They'll Need a Crane: Bethesda Terrace, Central Park
• Birdhouse in Your Soul: 31 Chambers St, Manhatten
• The Statue Got Me High: Sepulveda Dam, Los Angeles Rivers

etc --AnklePants 15:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)

Accordion Music

Doesn't anybody think it would be a rad idea if there was a massive page dedicated to accordion players? And it would like teach us TMBG songs on the accordion. --Mr.klaw

Have a look at Talk:Accordion. This may not teach you anything but it's the answer to the first part of your wish. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 15:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wonky Lyrics pages?

What's up with all the lyrics pages? It looks like all the line breaks have disappeared. --Salt-Man Z 16:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Discussed here. We're working on it...kinda. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 17:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Clooves Question

Does anybody know what happened to They Might Be Giants Multimedia? It doesn't appear to exsist any longer

I'm not sure, but you can contact the site's creator at leolapyre [at] gmail [dot] com. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 00:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Trivia

I think it would be a fun/educational idea if there was like a trivia page where users could post questions about TMBG, and then smart people could answer them. The post-ers would need to know the answers to the questions they post, so that they can tell the guess-ers they are correct. Since the Wiki contains sooooooooo much info d'Giants, we probally shouldn't use it to search for answers. The correct response would have to come from lots of TMBG knowledge. Example: Name the singer of "Boat of Car" Mr.klaw

Actually, I am goin to create a trivia page called Talk:Trivia Mr.klaw

New Users

Just out of curiosity, where are all the new users coming from? I count some crazy number like 18 in the last 2 days, which is quite a lot by our standards! Not that I'm complaining...I'm just wondering why the sudden spike? --Duke33 03:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we got some new fans via the supposed reggae stylings of that new Dunckin' Donuts commercial? ~ magbatz 03:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Instrument Listing

I think it would be a good idea to put a label showing the instruments used in a song, such as the guitars, or a trumpet, synth, etc. Leonard Carrier 03:55, 5 October 2006 (PST)

We've talked about it too...check this out: TMBW To-Do List. --Duke33 23:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Cleaner 'Welcome to TMBW' look

It just occurred to me that you could have Main Page redirect to say, This Might Be A Wiki - The TMBG Knowledge Base. It'll not-have the 'Redirected from <page>' thing at the top, and it'll avoid having two level-one headers. Just a suggestion.

And as proof, or to just see it in action, you can check this out for an example. -J2

I much prefer having the main page titled as such (and the discussion as Talk:Main Page). I'm open to other not-so-radical suggestions for getting rid of the two level-one headers, though, and I'm sure Duke33 is as well. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 01:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

All right. Well, you could probably do it with CSS. I'll play around with it in the sandbox later. -J2

Fan Art/Poetry/etc

I was just looking on the wiki for that edited TMBg publicity photo with John and John in a car as the grim Reapers or something, and I looked around and I couldn't find it anywhere. Or anything else for that matter, like the "Dizzy TMBg" poem and a few other things I remember being on here. Did we decide to get rid of that stuff, or is it just somewhere I can't find it? (and on a personal note, I'm looking for some user's track listing for an awesome mix, and I'm half-positive that it's the same person who did the grim-Reaper-Johns picture, so if anyone knows who or where that is, you will have just helped me greatly! thanks)  ~ magbatz

You can find that awesome poem here and the picture here. The playlist you are likely thinking of is on the user page of Flux. --badqueso 02:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, and thank you, and thank you. It was a good playlist, and mad props to you for being able to find that stuff--thanks. But let me ask you (or anyone): was there ever a singular page devoted to that kind of fan-created art?  ~ magbatz 03:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

There was, but Duke deleted it a few months ago. I didn't want the poems and such to be gone forever so I restored them to the user's namespaces. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 03:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Power of Dial a Song

Does anyone know how to get a hold of the PODAS compilations? It would be amazing to own them!--Mr.klaw 13:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Wired Cameo

I don't think that this is worthy for main page news, but TMBG got a brief mention in the latest edition of Wired magazine:

p.159

GEEK TAG NECKLACE
You finally traded your They
Might Be Giants T-shirt for a suit...

-AtionSong 18:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Dec 16 @ 9 PM - Brooklyn Show

It's going to be great, but my friend had computer problems and couldn't get his ticket through ticketweb. I'm scrambling to find him a ticket, so if any kindhearted fellow fans have an extra ticket, please let me know ASAP! My email is firelily AT gmail DOT com.

STD vs LTW

TMBG calls The Spine their tenth album, right? Well they're probably

Pink Album Lincoln Flood Apollo 18 John Henry Factory Showroom Mink Car No!

Wait... we're missing one. There should be one more.

It could be either Severe Tire Damage or Long Tall Weekend, right? Well, which one is it? This question has bothered me for forever, and now I'm asking you guys. Can you help me?