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Accordion Music

Doesn't anybody think it would be a rad idea if there was a massive page dedicated to accordion players? And it would like teach us TMBG songs on the accordion. --Mr.klaw

Have a look at Talk:Accordion. This may not teach you anything but it's the answer to the first part of your wish. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 15:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

Wonky Lyrics pages?

What's up with all the lyrics pages? It looks like all the line breaks have disappeared. --Salt-Man Z 16:54, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Discussed here. We're working on it...kinda. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 17:00, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

Clooves Question

Does anybody know what happened to They Might Be Giants Multimedia? It doesn't appear to exsist any longer

I'm not sure, but you can contact the site's creator at leolapyre [at] gmail [dot] com. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 00:09, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I found what I believe to be all the videos from TMBG Multimedia here -ill masta

I can't see that webjay website right now (I'm on a school computer and the site's blocked), but I think this is the place you were looking for-- it has all those 120 Minutes and JBTV and Conan performances, though I'm not sure if the links work: http://bangbangbanquet.net/tmbg/ ~ magbatz

Trivia

I think it would be a fun/educational idea if there was like a trivia page where users could post questions about TMBG, and then smart people could answer them. The post-ers would need to know the answers to the questions they post, so that they can tell the guess-ers they are correct. Since the Wiki contains sooooooooo much info d'Giants, we probally shouldn't use it to search for answers. The correct response would have to come from lots of TMBG knowledge. Example: Name the singer of "Boat of Car" Mr.klaw

Actually, I am goin to create a trivia page called Talk:Trivia Mr.klaw

New Users

Just out of curiosity, where are all the new users coming from? I count some crazy number like 18 in the last 2 days, which is quite a lot by our standards! Not that I'm complaining...I'm just wondering why the sudden spike? --Duke33 03:13, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Maybe we got some new fans via the supposed reggae stylings of that new Dunckin' Donuts commercial? ~ magbatz 03:19, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Instrument Listing

I think it would be a good idea to put a label showing the instruments used in a song, such as the guitars, or a trumpet, synth, etc. Leonard Carrier 03:55, 5 October 2006 (PST)

We've talked about it too...check this out: TMBW To-Do List. --Duke33 23:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Cleaner 'Welcome to TMBW' look

It just occurred to me that you could have Main Page redirect to say, This Might Be A Wiki - The TMBG Knowledge Base. It'll not-have the 'Redirected from <page>' thing at the top, and it'll avoid having two level-one headers. Just a suggestion.

And as proof, or to just see it in action, you can check this out for an example. -J2

I much prefer having the main page titled as such (and the discussion as Talk:Main Page). I'm open to other not-so-radical suggestions for getting rid of the two level-one headers, though, and I'm sure Duke33 is as well. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 01:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

All right. Well, you could probably do it with CSS. I'll play around with it in the sandbox later. -J2

I know this is a rather old thread (two months), but the css needed to do it is:

<div class="firstHeading" style="font-size: 188%; padding-top: 0.5em; padding-bottom: 0.17em; float: left; position: absolute; left: 0.5em; top: 0%; width: 98%; background-color:#FFFFFF">This Might Be A Wiki - The TMBG Knowledge Base</div>

— User:ACupOfCoffee @ 23:26, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that, it looks great except that the bottom of the "g" from the original title (Main Page) is still (ever so slightly) visible in Firefox. Know anything that can be done about that? -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 23:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

No, but it's happening because the title's not being changed on the page but being covered up by the new one. Maybe if a space were added to the beginning of the title it would make the "g"s line up?

That's a bit of a messy solution, plus the font isn't monospaced so they likely wouldn't line up perfectly anyway. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 00:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

I don't know anything about this type of stuff, but would making the div-table-box-thing's "padding-bottom" greater cover up the bottom of the G? then, I guess, you could just underline the title on its own. Although I'm not sure if that thing of code you have up there is blocking out the already-existent underliney headline, since if it isn't, then my solution probably wouldn't work. ~ magbatz

Other than on the edit revision pages, it looks perfect! Absolute genius, Magbatz. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 03:12, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Edit: Though it seems to now look very spacey in Internet Explorer. I guess it's best without modifying the padding-bottom, it didn't have any problems in IE then and the only problem in FF is very minor. Thanks for trying, though. :D -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 03:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Awwwww! But I like it better when I win! *pout pout cry* ~ magbatz

Just an FYI...it looks fine in monobook, but it's severely honked in other skins, such as the TMBW skin. --Duke33 15:49, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

Fan Art/Poetry/etc

I was just looking on the wiki for that edited TMBg publicity photo with John and John in a car as the grim Reapers or something, and I looked around and I couldn't find it anywhere. Or anything else for that matter, like the "Dizzy TMBg" poem and a few other things I remember being on here. Did we decide to get rid of that stuff, or is it just somewhere I can't find it? (and on a personal note, I'm looking for some user's track listing for an awesome mix, and I'm half-positive that it's the same person who did the grim-Reaper-Johns picture, so if anyone knows who or where that is, you will have just helped me greatly! thanks) ~ magbatz

You can find that awesome poem here and the picture here. The playlist you are likely thinking of is on the user page of Flux. --badqueso 02:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, and thank you, and thank you. It was a good playlist, and mad props to you for being able to find that stuff--thanks. But let me ask you (or anyone): was there ever a singular page devoted to that kind of fan-created art? ~ magbatz 03:08, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

There was, but Duke deleted it a few months ago. I didn't want the poems and such to be gone forever so I restored them to the user's namespaces. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 03:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Power of Dial a Song

Does anyone know how to get a hold of the PODAS compilations? It would be amazing to own them!--Mr.klaw 13:20, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Wired Cameo

I don't think that this is worthy for main page news, but TMBG got a brief mention in the latest edition of Wired magazine:

p.159

GEEK TAG NECKLACE
You finally traded your They
Might Be Giants T-shirt for a suit...

-AtionSong 18:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Dec 16 @ 9 PM - Brooklyn Show

It's going to be great, but my friend had computer problems and couldn't get his ticket through ticketweb. I'm scrambling to find him a ticket, so if any kindhearted fellow fans have an extra ticket, please let me know ASAP! My email is firelily AT gmail DOT com.

STD vs LTW

TMBG calls The Spine their tenth album, right? Well they're probably

Pink Album
Lincoln
Flood
Apollo 18
John Henry
Factory Showroom
Mink Car
No!

Wait... we're missing one. There should be one more.

It could be either Severe Tire Damage or Long Tall Weekend, right? Well, which one is it? This question has bothered me for forever, and now I'm asking you guys. Can you help me? -User:AgentChronon

So here's what each album has going for it to be considered the 7th album. STD is more popular than LTW, seeing as They had a label when they released it and it's an actual CD. It also contains studio releases of three new songs (Dr. Worm, About Me, and the Theme To STD), two new live songs (First Kiss and They Got Lost) and like 7 never-heard-before Battle of the Apes things. It should be noted, though, that the never-before-released live songs were both reworked and put on studio albums.

Now LTW. There are 15 songs, most of which are unreleased. (Well, They Got Lost was previously released on the live album, but if you're rooting for LTW, then you could argue that the same thing happened with First Kiss reappearing on Mink Car. And then Token Back To Brooklyn was a hidden track on Factory Showroom.) All were studio recordings. Wikipedia calls it "the first major full-length album released exclusively on the Internet by an established major label band." However, that also brings up the fact that LTW was never widely released in CD form. Another weakness for LTW is that maybe five of the songs were also released on They Got Lost (the album) and two reworked for Mink Car.

So, in short... Pros for STD: some new material, some studio material, was widely released. Cons for STD: mostly live versions of old material, some reworked for later albums. Pros for LTW: all studio material, mostly new material. Cons for LTW: an online release, songs were mostly FS-era outtakes, some were rereleased on a rarities album.

So the argument, in my opinion, is: Can a live album be considered album? Is an obscure, outtakes-filled CD a compilation or an actual album? So there's what I think are the main arguments for either side-- so, pick one. And thank you, Agent Chronon, for just happening to wonder which album was the seventh. Very smooth ;) ~ magbatz. Now as for view on it, I personally would go with LTW, because I think STD being a live album basically disqualifies it from being a real album, while LTW was at the time unreleased new material (besides Token...) and consisted of songs taken from the two or three years before LTW was released (as opposed to Misc. T, which was material from all the way back in the early 80s).

TMBG's definitely referring to Long Tall Weekend as one of the first nine albums. Severe Tire Damage was a live album that just happened to have a couple of studio tracks added on (perhaps as a bonus). -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 00:30, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Well, yeah, but since some songs from LTW are on They Got Lost, it's considered a "rarity" and on User's Guide on the actual disk it listed all the different albums and didn't mention Long Tall Weekend... but that's probably because no songs from it were on User's Guide. -User:AgentChronon

Just giving STD some more props here. (She Thinks She's) Edith Head (1) and Older (2) were remade for Mink Car. Lullabye To Nightmares (3) was a remake and On Earth My Nina (4) was pretty much too. Rat Patrol (5), Token Back To Brooklyn (6), Reprehensible (7), Certain People I Could Name (8), and They Got Lost (9) were all put onto the They Got Lost (Rarities Compilation) ("rare" being the key word there). And The Edison Museum (10) was re-released on No!. So that's 10 songs on a 15 song album (or 2/3) that were "messed with."

Severe Tire Damage was half "remakes" (aka live versions) and half totally new songs (or 12/24. You could say the hidden songs don't count and make it 5/17, but this is an argument for STD). But at least the "remakes" were different from the originals. Six of the tracks on LTW were straight re-released, not remade, most onto a "rarities" collection, lowering LTW's status, and it was never "officially" released in a physical format. (By the way magbatz, the guy who worded that currently thinks Wikipedia is a joke. Just saying.) Remember, STD is the album that has Doctor Worm, a favorite of many, on it. It was even released as a single and as their first video in four years. What singles were on LTW again?

Now I also understand the difficulty in considering a live album as a "numbered album" but maybe this will make you think about the possibility. And then there's the thought that the Giants may not have it set themselves, though I don't think this is what I'd ask them if I met them (though I have thought about it..). I'm not rooting for any side here, just opening up discussion some more. I'm sure I could come up with an equally strong (and equally fallacious) argument for LTW. --badqueso 03:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, both albums have a lot going against them. LTW basically consisted of a) re-used songs and b) songs that would later be re-used. STD is the only live album up for "consideration". But back to the real discussion about my main man Mr. Branddobbe. He may have recently had his userpage say that, BUT he's made something like 4000 or 4500 (I lost count) edits to wikipedia in the last 3 or so years, and his last userpage and his userbox/personal page are pretty extremely in-depth and he's a really committed wikipedian. So THERE!!! ~ magbatz

Hey, I told you it was fallacious! (don't eat me!) --badqueso 05:45, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

As long as I can have your soul, I promise I'll leave your body alone. Deal? ~ magbatz 08:29, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

As long as you don't send the nbsp demons to harvest it. And I think it's tainted from the 80s, so wear gloves. --badqueso 08:41, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Long Tall Weekend had only ONE previously released studio track on it when it came out, and that was originally a hidden track (Token Back on Factory Showroom). The other song that had been previously released was as a very differently-tempo'd live song on Severe Tire Damage, They Got Lost. Now, think about how many songs Severe Tire Damage had that were brand new studio recordings, compared to LTW's fourteen. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 23:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I forgot to include Token Back To Brooklyn and They Got Lost in some of my numbers. So that's four old ones: Token Back To Brooklyn from Factory Showroom, Lullabye To Nightmares from Hello The Band, They Got Lost from Severe Tire Damage, and On Earth My Nina which is Thunderbird (previously a live song) backwards. My bigger point concerning LTW was that most of these songs were re-released (and on a rarities compilation to boot). Calling these songs rare devalues LTW as a whole. If this were as firmly an album as you suggest, then why do the songs need to be re-released on other albums? I don't see them putting Everything Right Is Wrong Again on another album. Is it worse for the album for a song to be a remake (like tracks on STD, Mink Car, etc.) or for a song to be remade/re-released (LTW)? Now if you want to debate the meaning of "studio track" then you're on your own, especially if you're comparing to a stated "live" album. --badqueso 00:23, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

My vote is totally for LTW. It's a studio album, albeit a novelty (online-only) studio album, while STD is a live album with a few studio tracks included. ~Drew

I know this debate died down a few months ago, but we have official word now on what Flans says. Although they said the Spine was number ten (meaning one of the two sort-of albums wouldn't count), he said in this article that the new one was either number 12 or number 13 (Spine is 10 or 11, ABCs, is 11 or 12, new one is 12 or 13). So the final answer is: They don't if only one or if both count as albums, and it doesn't seem like they care to figure it out. Whoo. ~ magbatz

That streamable radio show today

For those of us who, unlike me, did not have to be at school for the first show, and who, unlike me, actually were smart enough to tune into the 9-o-clock thing-- what happened? Was it an interview dealy thing? Was it them playing a few (new?) songs? Anyone? ~ magbatz 02:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC) (and as a side, this radio station rocks! I just went to it and they're playing Bob Dylan's Dignity. Great song.)

They played Bee Of The Bird Of The Moth, We Live In A Dump, and (as a request from the DJ) Doctor Worm, had a really funny interview, and had the DJ play a The Long Winters song on the second radio show they did today. I didn't hear the first show, but both should be on the radio station's Web site archive. :) ~Drew

Sounds cool, thanks. I'll definitely look out for that. ~ magbatz

Well...

It's a shame about the free MP3s thing, but I can understand. And I respect y'all for taking it down and respecting their wishes. Good job! :) ~Anna Ng hears your words.

Can anyone in here read Japanese?

Apparently with the "cryptic" message mentioned on the News section, They were trying to put the message in Japanese but something or other didn't support it. So now they just made a picture out of it [1], but to me it's still unreadable. So can anyone read this and tell us what it says? I'm gonna see some kid who's in 4th-year Japanese class on Saturday, so I can probably ask him to translate it if no one's figured it out before then. ~ magbatz 01:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

Translation

A friend who knows japanese has translated it for me:

I want you to listen to the new podcast of They Might Be Giants! We are planning to have a very big tour to promote two [TMBG] albums that we are releasing in 2007. We have just finished recording an awesome album, working with legendary producers, Dust Bros. & Pat Dillett. We are working on a kids album "Here Come the 123s" and its DVD.

User: Guy-Smiley

New Vid On Youtube!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=zYGHpFC3TS4

Whence that wince.

Check it out..

Cody-schmidt

Update

Their MySpace profile's been updated. Yay! Kaiilaiqualyn 13:22, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

taglinesgalore.com

I came across this site while investigating the existence of something TMBG did in 1990 called "Grumpfest". Here's a list of what they have in the 't' section that's relevantish. I've only heard of the '89 tour. You? -TDK 15:57, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

The TMBG 1987 Bring Me the Head of Kenny Rodgers tour.
The TMBG 1989 Don't Tread on the Cut-Up Snake Tour
The TMBG 1995 That Pioneer Spirit Tour
The TMBG 2002 Cartoon Network Tour.
The TMBG Grumpfest '90 Tour
The statue got me high -- TMBG
The sun is a mass of incandescant gas -- TMBG
There's an Ant Crawling up your back in the nighttime -- TMBG
They Might Be Giants' newest album: FLOOD
They Might Be Giants, BWAH, They Might Be Giants
This is a recording -- TMBG Remix
Tho' the guy's a pig, we know what he wants -- TMBG

I have no clue what that website's about, but if TMBG's 1987 tour was called the 'Bring Me the Head of Kenny Rogers Tour', then, well, that's one more reason I love them. ~ magbatz 23:09, 19 January 2007 (UTC)... also, apparently the Don't Tread on the Cut Up Snake tour was in 1992, in support of Apollo 18. and by the way, what was Grumpfest? I've never heard of it... ~ magbatz 23:13, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

Secret?

Hey, how did they know that today's my unbirthday? --badqueso 07:23, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

I'd assume they're sending a link to that to any MySpace friends who are having birthdays, however they do that. Then again, that doesn't explain why it says the song is from Lincoln. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 16:06, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

And while I'm not sure if that unlinked page was considered a secret, I think I've found the only real secrets on tmbg.com; clicking the TMBG image at the top of that It's Not My Birthday page loads the song in one of the Dialasong.com pop-up song windows, and clicking the crane image on the News / splash page does the same. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 16:17, 23 January 2007 (UTC)

Political Cartoons/Art

I was just wondering if anyone else had seen this art exhibition or read anything about it. A couple of TMBG collaberators, Brian Dewan and Kurt Hoffman, had pieces in the exhibit. I haven't yet looked through them all, but there might be others. Just thought others here might be interested. Krueger 04:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Peter Pan 2?

Woah! According to this, TMBG wrote music for Peter Pan 2, Return to Neverland. Did we know this? Does anyone own the movie who can check the credits or something? You think something would've been said at the time, but then again, I wasn't a fan back in 2002, so I wouldn't know if They did say something. --Ganna

See Disney's Return To Neverland. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 01:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh! Alrighty then. -- Ganna

RSS Feed

Seeing as there's no official one, I made an RSS feed of the Recent News on the main page for my own use using feed43.com. Since it's so useful, I thought maybe someone with the authority to edit the main page might want to add the proper code to allow others to use it. At any rate, the url is http://feed43.com/8118086204587380.xml for anyone interested. --Scottus0 03:54, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Lineup Page

Anyone else feel that we need a lineup page to show TMBG's different members throughout the years? --liam (wtf?) 22:37, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

I like it. -J2

Tagline

Hey, if we can think of a better tagline, are we allowed to change it? Or is it off limits?

Everyone's allowed to change the tagline whenever they want, that's why we have the "Edit the tagline" link under it. :) -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 14:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

"(The Song)"

Somewhere at some point I remember there was something said about songs being titled either "Song Name (The Song)" or "Album Name (The Album)" and changing them to be simply "Song Name (Song)" or "Album Name (Album)". I don't know where I stand (or if I even stand at all on this), but yeah, I'm just putting it out there, because I'm pretty sure some people started talking about it. Though maybe not, I've been known to think weirder things... ~ magbatz 04:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

I moved all the "The Song"s and etc to "Song" a few days ago, it just seems a lot cleaner and uses less unnecessary wordage. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 04:54, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Well then, I guess I'm a little bit late on bringing it up. Whoo! ~ magbatz 20:03, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

Rectangular Guitar

Anyone know what that squarish/rectangular guitar that flans has used frequently, as seen in this pic? [2] I figure the one he uses is probably out of my price range, but has anyone else seen any guitars like that, that would be less than say... 3000$? I always wanted to build up my reputation as the "Geek that rocks" I figured that would be exactly how. Thanks! --Fasterthanyou 02:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

it's a custom made mojo guitar. you could probably get one custom made like it for something like $3000

Move powarz?

What? We have the ability to move pages? Has this always been around? Maybe it's a bug? -J2

Everyone has always had this ability, even on Wikipedia. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 15:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

What. Wow. I'm probably blind. -J2

I'm bored. really really really bored.

anyone wanna get on tmbw chat?

Particle Man is LyricWiki's song of the day

http://www.lyricwiki.org/Main_Page for March the 9th :)

Uh-oh...

Hahaha what a foreboding message to put on the homepage. Exactly what changes will we see? I'm excited. -Cronny

What can they do to the site that's note Web 1.0? Rename to "This Might Be a 2.0?" 71.113.47.254 04:15, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Well, I'm not going to tell anyone how I did it (it was pretty easy), but the changes are really good! :D Stalefries 04:21, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Psyche. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 13:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

It's not April yet. I thought, perhaps, for a second... -Cronny

I was under the impression that wikis were "web 2.0" by default. When did this change? --badqueso 05:07, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

So did I. Hah, I'm not gonna complain about an upgrade though. -Cronny

So, exatly what is going to be different? --Josherz 19:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

All will be revealed on Saturday. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 19:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

The question should be, rather, what ISN'T going to be different-- bwahaha! ~ magbatz 23:08, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

Somehow I get the feeling they're enjoying this... -Cronny

At least someone is. Also: this was a secret? --badqueso 00:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

Ok, you've definitly piqued my curiosity :-) --Josherz 23:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

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 ::::::Somehow I get the feeling they're enjoying this... -[[Cronny]]
 :::::::At least someone is. Also: this was a secret? --[[User:Badqueso|badqueso]] 00:39, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
+::::::::Ok, you've definitly piqued my curiosity :-) --[[User:Josherz|Josherz]] 23:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)