Talk:Recycled Material

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... I think that most of these are merely coincidental. Sorry.

See also

- Am I the only one who notices a similarity between the openings of Extra Krispy and She Was A Hotel Detective?

-They're just done in similar music styles. - extrafacelol

Rollback[edit]

I rolled back the addition of Mr. Xcitement & Your Mom's Alright...I failed to see how the two were related, except that I think Your Mom's alright was used in lieu of Xcitement on foreign versions. Still, i don't think that fits with the theme of the page. --Duke33 19:34, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

Experimental Film/Purple Toupee[edit]

A few people, including myself have noticed the similarities in music (see Experimental Film musical interlude and chorus/beginning of Purple Toupee) between Experimental Film and Purple Toupee... should I add this? --Lemita 14:34, 14 Mar 2006 (CST)

If that gets added, (She Was A) Hotel Detective In The Future and Columbia should be added, too. The lines "She was a hotel detective" and "The boys and the girls are getting together" appear to be sung with the same melody.
Ummm... is that a yes or no? ^_^; But I agree with that too. --Lemita 19:43, 16 Mar 2006 (CST)
(Several weeks later...) I believe we should make a section for recycled music (And we 'prolly have one and I skipped over it) here... I'll do it if nobody responds in a while. =) --Lemita 19:49, 8 Apr 2006 (CDT)

C-Town[edit]

Anyone else think that Cowtown, Cabbagetown and Clowntown should be included under "Song triples"? -pat 11:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, person from the distant past! Always get those 3 mixed up. --66.214.65.47 19:07, 2 September 2020 (EDT)

Flood Lead[edit]

Hearing Aid does not lead into Minimum Wage, they are spaced out and have completely different sounds. --Dunklekuh81

They're not spaced out... they segue into eachother well what with the minimal silence between the tracks. At least, that's my opinion. On the other hand, I'm not sure how good segues qualify as recycled material... Akagi 04:35, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Album Lead-Ins?[edit]

Do you really need an Album Lead-Ins section on Recycled Material? It's a song theme about reusing TMBG lyrics, music, etc. And I don't really see a point in Album Lead-Ins. -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")

I think lead-ins are really cool and worth noting, and here seems like a decent place. They reuse the spirit of one song to start up another, no? For more awesome lead-ins, by the way, check out Cross by Justice. But...uh...tone down the bolding and color a little, maybe? -Apollo. 00:32, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
I suppose, be it seems like it should be a completely different song theme to me. I mean, I see what you're saying, but it's not always the spirit of the song. Take Au Contraire for instance. It leads into Damn Good Times with handclaps. Handclaps! And they're never used in the song again. -- DidgeGuy (आ ज) 01:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
Eh...ok. Spirit was a bad word for it. Let's say style. The style of the song. -Apollo. 01:17, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
The style of Au Contraire and the style of Damn Good Times aren't remotely the same. They are connected by applause, they are not about the same thing, they don't even have the same key signature. I still think Lead-Ins should be a different song theme. -- DidgeGuy (आ ज) 01:36, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

idea[edit]

Not necessarily a good one, but would anyone like to weigh in on including the text-reuse Ant noticed (and j2, sort of) on this page? -Apollo. 01:20, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I think it's got at least as much right to be here as "Printed on recycled paper"...--Self Called Nowhere 01:23, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Uhh, give me an example. Besides the thing he found.
Besides the 2 examples Ant gave there? --Self Called Nowhere 01:39, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Where?
Look in the comments on the "thing he found." --Self Called Nowhere 01:42, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
protip™: signing posts is easy and fun! --ant 01:46, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh, shoot. I've been forgetting to sign posts, too. Now, on the subject of my meager suggestion, I can't really tell if it's been affirmed or not, but if someone does go through with it, I think someone (and you know who that is...if you don't I put a nifty link in so that malinformed people can figure it out, too, but I'm sure you knew anyway) should upload those examples onto the wiki for clean linking on the page. Only if we think this is a good idea, though. Oh, and someone should also put it on the page, in that case, because I am too lazy and not confident enough to choose a place for it. -Apollo. 02:12, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
btw, it is possible to make links to external pages look like internal links. --ant 02:41, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh yeah, I knew that. I figured it out one day after altering the show-attendance user box a little bit...Anyway, I just figured it would be more useful to store the images on the wiki. Whatever floats your boat, though. They're yours. Well, not yours, exactly, but close enough. -Apollo. 02:53, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
Learned that while editing Wikipedia a few days ago. The code wasn't exactly the same, but it was close enough to the point where I could of figured it out. -- DidgeGuy (आ ज) 12:45, 19 May 2010

Raincoat and Memo[edit]

Out of curiosity, how does the line from Wearing A Raincoat, "And you'll need a friend to talk you down," relate to Memo To Human Resources? -- DidgeGuy (आ ज)

"Then the people came to talk me down..." ~ blitzente (talk) 19:40, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

I don't see why it had to be taken off. It never crossed my mind that they wouldn't be related, and besides, even if it isn't a reference, they are still reusing the phrase, no? -Apollo. 19:45, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

talking a person down is an expression like any other. in order for it to count i think the respective lines would have to be a lot more similar. that's my opinion at least. --ant 19:52, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
I agree with you. I don't think things like that, just normal phrases, are TMBG consciously repeating themselves, which is why I've taken off the couple of ones I've taken off recently. --Self Called Nowhere 20:13, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
All right. I mean, I agree that it probably isn't a reference, but they are still using it again. I guess I'll just go with the majority, though. Or at least I'll put up a semblance for you. -Apollo. 20:18, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Well I mean, if we included every time they ever reuse a phrase...this would be a very very long list. I think to be included it should be either a. very distinctive or b. very particular to TMBG. --Self Called Nowhere 21:17, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, yeah. Sembling. Um...I meant that like the nonexistant verb form of semblance, not the insect mating thing. -Apollo. 21:32, 21 May 2010 (UTC)

They might be frying up a stalk of wheat...[edit]

Um... Does Stalk Of Wheat really belong here? "They might be frying up a stalk of wheat...". Is reusing a grain worth... um... mention...? -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")

DO YOU PEOPLE HAVE TO PROTEST EVERYTHING?
Yes. Everything we think shouldn't be there. -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
That's no excuse. I mean, this page is a little...partial, if that's the case. But if you're the expert, what is the audible difference between the Johns intending to reference another song and a total coincidence?
I might not be an expert. I'm just saying. -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
Yeah, this is definitely a subjective thing... I think Stalk of Wheat is a reference to TMBG, but fail to see the link between Experimental Film and Nothing's Gonna Change My Clothes. Whatever. Can we just slap a "your mileage may vary" at the top and call it a day?
I like this guy. -Apollo. 00:30, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Well... Like Selfcallednowhere said in the raincoat thing, reusing phrases isn't really a thing you should put on Recycled Material. And "Stalk Of Wheat" is less than a phrase. IT IS A GRAIN!!!! -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
Besides phrases and...um...phrases (musical) what is there to recycle? Also, stalk of wheat isn't a common expression, like "talk him down."
Reusing lyrics that aren't phrases are worth mention. And as I said: IT IS A GRAIN!!!! -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
Ditto. What difference does it make exactly what it is? That's not the point. (For the record, I don't have a problem with this one. As said above, distinctive phrases are different than regular phrases/expressions which was what I said in the first place). --Self Called Nowhere 01:00, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
GRAIN!!!!!! -- Buzzmusic100 (Yes! Grain!)
Once again, Quinn is shot down by Sherlock's logic. -Apollo. 01:24, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Have I told you lately that I love you? --Self Called Nowhere 01:41, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
GAAHAAAAHAHAGRAIN!!!!!!! (This is fun!) -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
For YOU maybe...for everyone else? Not so much... --Self Called Nowhere 03:06, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
Sorry. Got carried away. -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
OK now back to the point. Who votes to NOT have They Might Be Giants and Stalk Of Wheat on Recycled Material? -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
who cares

OK. Sorry for bringing this up again but I just wanted to get my point across in which I have failed to. A stalk of wheat is a normal object, right? I don't think TMBG would intend to have referenced a song from 7 albums ago just because they write another song about a stalk of wheat. And even then, they don't really talk at all about stalks of wheat except for at the beginning. I do not think it is recycled material... material. But if you don't agree, that's fine. I just don't think some people understood my post so I'm explaining it in a better way.

Dig My Grave, Road Movie[edit]

Does anyone think there is any significance that the last song of Flood and the first song of the next album, Apollo 18, both mention St. Peter? I think these are the only two songs that do, could they be referencing each other? -- DidgeGuy (आ ज) 18:40, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm... Maybe. -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
Eh, I don't see it that way. They're both just referencing Heaven and he's the obvious representative person. --Self Called Nowhere 19:27, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Ok, but seriously, I agree with Quinn, in essence. -Apollo. 19:33, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
They've mentioned heaven before without specifying Peter. -- DidgeGuy (आ ज) 21:27, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, there are probably lots of religious things or persons that aren't "St. Peter" that TMBG have used in their songs. -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
Yes, and they have also mentioned grain before without specifying wheat. -Apollo.
And now; my not clever response: Peter is a person, whereas Heaven is a place; an idea. Peter needed to be doing something in the lyrics. Peter is Heaven anthropomorphized. And honestly, this is really just reading waaaay too far into it. -Apollo. 21:43, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Tick[edit]

Should Tick and Tick Tick Tick Tick be added back? Even if "tick" doesn't technically mean the same thing, it still seems like it should qualify for this page if one title is literally the other title repeated. --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 01:07, 5 March 2022 (EST)

No. --Self Called Nowhere (talk) 01:16, 5 March 2022 (EST)

ABCs[edit]

While not a song, it should be mentioned that the menu music for Here Come The ABCs is the disco from Alphabet Lost And Found (hey if someone could send me an mp3 file of just that menu song on repeat for like 3 minutes that would be great, I'd like to use it for something)--You&Me!! (talk) 10:49, 17 May 2022 (EDT)