Talk:BOOK

Potential tracks

Are there any candidates for this yet? --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 20:14, 24 August 2019 (EDT)

probably not, lol; if any news shows up we'll most likely hear something closer to 2020 :^) Snagwhag (talk) 22:47, 24 August 2019 (EDT)

I'm looking forward to "Synopsis For Latecomers." --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 18:22, 19 December 2019 (EST)

So...can we mark “I Broke My Own Rule” as a confirmed track? Acey (she purble) (talk)

I don't know what the precedent is for tracks confirmed on [REDACTED], but I think it's fine to divulge that information given that it's getting released a single soon, so it's not like it's that surprising. If someone wants to correct me on this, by all means. Next in Line (talk) 04:42, 8 May 2021 (EDT)

What I'm really excited about

So those songs that were previously released that are in the liner notes, are they gonna be in the album too? If they are, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE especially Let's Get This Over With, which was already on an official album, but TMBG has done that before (Older, Black Ops, She Thinks She's Edith Head, Token Back To Brooklyn). But if they are going to be on the album, I am super excited, because Dog, Unctuous Robot, and Best Regrets aren't on streaming services, but BOOK is going to be, so that's amazing, especially since Best Regrets is my all-time favorite song of all time, so it would be really cool for me to add it onto my Spotify playlists. Just a fantasy, just a thought, but that would be really cool. --You&Me!! (talk) 14:58, 21 May 2021 (EDT)

Those previously-released songs will be in the 12" art/lyrics hardcover book; not the actual album's (digital/CD/vinyl) liner notes. The 15 songs on BOOK are recorded for the album and are not from previous releases. But you should be able to add your own music (including MMR) to your Spotify account using a computer. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 15:14, 21 May 2021 (EDT)

single pattern

surely it is no coincidence that all the singles' names start with "I" right? - fork (talk) 22:27, 10 August 2021 (EDT)

You're not the only one to notice that, but according to Flans, it was pure chance.^[1] --MisterMe (talk) 08:31, 11 August 2021 (EDT)

Recording sessions

Some background info on the recording sessions for BOOK, placed here for posterity. At some point, parts of this should probably be incorporated somewhere on the page. --MisterMe (talk) 17:31, 12 September 2021 (EDT)

Singles

So far it feels like JF’s Singles are better than JL’s, maybe this is just my opinion but I lost Thursday and Super Cool outshine JL’s singles. - spiralcape

I agree that Flan's are more catchy, but I do still enjoy the lyrics and tune of JL's a little more on a personal level --jimmyZenShinsThreeHundred11 (talk)

JL's songs this time around are kind of samey, as in they all have a repeating line that they keep bringing up, and I Can't Remember The Dream and Part Of You Wants To Believe especially sound eerily similar, like JL wrote all these songs at the same exact time with the same exact thing in mind. The only one that really sticks out to me is I Broke My Own Rule, because it's the first TMBG song explicitly about suicide. Meanwhile, Flansburgh's been amazing; I Lost Thursday is one of my favorite songs released in 2020, and Super Cool is wonderfully different than anything before. This and The Spine are the only albums that John Flansburgh outshines John Linnell, but while JF makes it just barely, because all the songs on The Spine are absolutely amazing, on this album, it's very obvious John Flansburgh has the upper edge. --You&Me!! (talk) 08:24, 14 October 2021 (EDT)

Took me a long time to warm up to Flans’s singles. Linnell’s are all great and I wouldn’t call them “samey” personally. They all have a very unique sound to em in my opinion. Maybe not Part Of You Wants To Believe Me as much, but I love that one too. It’s just JL’s style and it’s a damn good one. Not to mention, ICRTD is no doubt my favorite song from 2021 so far and one my favorites of theirs in the last couple years. --Lukehennisch (talk) 11:03, 24 October 2021 (EDT)

Is anyone else weirdly hyped for the song titled "Wait Actually Yeah No"?

This song's title already makes it seem like it could be the all-time most humorous They Might Be Giants song, even more humorous than some of the other songs that have previously held this title (Kiss Me Son Of God, Memphis, When Will You Die)--You&Me!! (talk) 14:19, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

Sounds like it might be a contradictory song like I'm Not A Loser, where he gets into like, pentuple negatives or something. --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 14:50, 20 October 2021 (EDT)

I know this is totally against the rules and stuff, but...

I want to know if the cd is inside the book or is in a separate thing with it's own liner notes, or are the liner notes the lyric art? IFC members, I apologize, i just need clarification, because I love the cover so much and it would suck if the CD was inside the book without the cover art. If you answer this I will remove all anti-IFC stuff from my userpage --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 10:07, 21 October 2021 (EDT)

There are two versions of the CD that can be purchased: the standalone disc ($12) or the book+CD set ($49). The standalone disc comes with the standard cover art (broken piece of vinyl on the sidewalk) and I believe the book+CD set does not have that art as the disc comes inside the book. IFC 2020 subscriptions include the book+CD set. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 10:16, 21 October 2021 (EDT)

That's what I thought, alright thanks, I hope the art is inside the artbook. --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 10:30, 21 October 2021 (EDT)

lyrics???

the genius page for book has lyrics for almost all the unreleased songs...where did these come from??? i hope they werent leaked from ifc or something - fork (talk) 13:12, 24 October 2021 (EDT)

IFC members began receiving physical copies of BOOK last week. Someone who likely didn't know better posted lyrics from some of the songs to Genius. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 14:25, 24 October 2021 (EDT)

I am resisting the urge to look these up, could someone report those pages? --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk)

Just saying, I found what I assume to be CapitalQ, to have edited the lyrics of Moonbeam Rays. Cool. --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 09:59, 25 October 2021 (EDT)

Indeed, the lyrics that were initially submitted (by "naturalkatsup") contained dozens of errors and question marks. I don't have the ability to remove those lyrics from Genius, but I felt the next best thing would be to ensure TMBG fans could see accurate lyrics for those songs. Thousands of lyric sites across the internet automatically copy their content from Genius and it would've been painful to see them all populated with incorrect/incomplete lyrics from BOOK. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 12:03, 25 October 2021 (EDT)

I totally get it, I think it's better to have accurate leaked information then inaccurate leaked information. This helped me work on my BOOK review, by the way -⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 12:14, 25 October 2021 (EDT)

BOOK BOOK BOOK

I think we should put in previews from the recent article with Paul Sahre, on November 12 --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 07:40, 27 October 2021 (EDT)

Release Date?

in an interview on OCTOBER 27th, they said the album was on Oct. 29th, what? --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 13:14, 28 October 2021 (EDT)

That was the release date a few months ago before shipping delays that moved it into November. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 14:28, 28 October 2021 (EDT)

Interesting, they must've gotten it wrong. --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 15:25, 28 October 2021 (EDT)

The Leak- BOOK full album video

ok, who leaked BOOK? I heard it got 1K views from fork. Apparently, some jerk abused the IFC power and released the full album on YouTube, please tell me they were brought to justice by the Johns. --Jeffjman (talk) 10:01, 3 November 2021 (EDT)

Dude who really cares? Mr. Klaw (talk)

The most disappointing Mr. Klaw comment. I get annoyed when anyone leaks anything no matter the artist. Don’t leak an artist whether it’s tmbg or even freakin kanye 100.35.196.32

I agree; if anything, it's just disrespectful to the band to be bootlegging stuff imho. And, selfishly, I would be pissed if they ultimately discontinued IFC because people were doing this kind of shit regularly. - 't

Lifting our embargo

In addition to thousands of fans having already heard the album via IFC, the official TMBG Shop has been shipping out versions of BOOK for a few weeks, so many non-IFC fans have physical copies of the album as well. I think we're good to unlock the pages at this point with the album hitting streaming/digital this Friday. I'll be posting lyrics from an official PDF, with some minor cleanup to fit our standard styles. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 10:28, 9 November 2021 (EST)

Hahah, a few minutes into this process, TMBG coincidentally made the album downloadable for everyone who preordered on the shop. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 11:54, 9 November 2021 (EST)

BOOK Book cover bowed

The cover of my copy of the BOOK art book bowed. I think this is because I kept the cd out of the envelope for a while. :/ --⇂⇂↋ suᴉɥsuǝZ ʎɯɯᴉᒋ (talk) 08:17, 29 November 2021 (EST)

Photos?

Should the song pages include the photos which accompany the song lyrics in the book? It's clear that at least some of these were intended to go with the song (see the one for Less than One in particular). --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 23:33, 30 January 2022 (EST)

I think that's a good idea. (I also think that the picture for Lord Snowdon fits as well)--You&Me!! (talk) 07:31, 31 January 2022 (EST)

Fight Me

I think BOOK is a f'n amazing album, and I love it so much. I'll fisticuffs anyone who hates it just because it's not Flood or Lincoln. --Apostrophe T (talk) 11:01, 5 August 2022 (EDT) (fisticuffs!!)

I'll take you up on that fight, I think this is the worst album TMBG has made. TitanicFog (talk) 11:26, 5 August 2022 (EDT)

Thankfully there is room for everyone to have their own opinions. Even wrong ones like the one directly above me. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 11:37, 5 August 2022 (EDT)

hey! :P TitanicFog (talk) 18:20, 5 August 2022 (EDT)

IMO, the real wrong opinion is thinking that no album can ever top Flood (because they have indeed topped it, about 5 times). --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 18:41, 5 August 2022 (EDT)

Rankings

I've moved the song ranking lists from this talk page to the subpage Talk:BOOK/Rankings to make the discussion page easier to navigate. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 10:29, 20 August 2022 (EDT)

Book Songs Live

So far only two songs from this album has been played. Which songs top the list of ones we wish to hear a live version of? For me it's I broke my own rule.

Brontosaurus. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸 14:32, 18 September 2022 (EDT)

Brontosaurus, I Lost Thursday, Part Of You Wants To Believe Me, Less Than One. Particular emphasis on the third option. - FloridaFlamingoGirl talk 13:10, 18 September 2022 (PST)

Time to play Drown the Clown. Play it live, that is. --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 20:54, 18 September 2022 (EDT)

Oh wow, that song is actually a perfect fit for Linnell’s live keyboard setup. I can just imagine him totally getting into it. The vocal harmonies would be blissful too. And there’s a warm guitar sound. Yeah, I can get behind this. FloridaFlamingoGirl talk 18:30 September 2022 (PST)

They just announced a BOOK show January 11, I guess we'll find out then. --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 00:37, 4 October 2022 (EDT)

I feel like Brontosaurus could be an awesome set closer, and If Day for Winnipeg could work in The Quiet Storm (if TMBG decide to do that again.) And Helicopters of Elves could be pretty fun. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

You know what especially feels like a Quiet Storm song to me? Quit the Circus. So subdued and poignant. FloridaFlamingoGirl talk 9:55, 11 November 2022 (PST)

I feel like it needs the bass though. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

True. I can maybe see it used as a second-to-last song in one of their sets. -FloridaFlamingoGirl

Maybe it could be used as a lead-in to Spy. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

Haha I love this idea! Same kind of lush, crispy horns in both. -FloridaFlamingoGirl

And also, hear me out, Part Of You Wants To Believe Me could work great as a lead-in to Don't Let's Start. Same key, same kinda vibe. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

Wait wait I'm totally with you on this. Both have that bright, sparkly kind of feel. Part of You needs more appreciation for being just a really tight Linnell pop track. -FloridaFlamingoGirl

Either that or Mammal. You know what, TMBG should add a medley to their shows. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

The idea of combining songs with a similar “vibe” could be a fun challenge for the band, especially because they’d have to come up with ways to transition them together. -FloridaFlamingoGirl

Like, They are always saying that Flood shows are very restrictive, a medley would be a perfect change of pace. Also it could provide as an excuse to do songs they don't normally do live. - HotelDetectiveInTheFuture🪗 talk 🎸

Agreed, maybe we could see the first live performance of Feign Amnesia. Also, if they did If Day For Winnipeg, we'd all be waiting for the tuba... --ColorOfInfinity (talk) 22:05, 12 November 2022 (EST)

Feign Amnesia? You better believe I can get behind Feign Amnesia. Here’s a Linnell medley idea, spontaneously thrown together based on my knee-jerk impulses of “what TMBG songs aren’t performed frequently enough (and would lead well into each other”: Certain People -> Let Your Hair Hang Down -> My Man -> I’ll Be Haunting You -> Sensurround -> They’ll Need A Crane. -FloridaFlamingoGirl

HOT TAKE ALERTION

I'm left feeling a little discontented by THE BOOK portion of the BOOK BOOK. Of course not for it's existence or presentation, but I think some more time was needed to add cohesion from the album and ep. "Are the alternate arrangement of tracks a deliberate choice?" I think. "A decision on whose part?" Regardless of my curiosity, I'm mainly wondering why There Will Be Sad and Buckle Down, Winsocki weren't on there. I also wonder to myself, "Why? Why The Pamphlet EP?" - RakoonCD (talk) 01:41, 8 July 2023 (EDT)