User talk:Duke33

Listen vs. Download

Listen makes more sense since some of the links are to RealAudio files, which you don't technically download but stream. Sorry, I meant to get the change in with the one that replaced MP3.AaronSw 11:49, 15 Mar 2005 (EST)

Special Page

You may have noticed Wikipedia's random page search link on the left of their site. The same affect can be acheived here using [[1]] (try it!). This link added to our left navigator would be a fun addition to the site, and it would provide idlers with a means to explore parts of the wiki they wouldn't normally find. This promotes a healthy presentation of fresh material to some blocked minds, furthing the greatness of the wiki. On top of that, Wikipedia binds this link to Alt-X to expedite random page viewing.

The code is already there; all you have to do is add the link to the left navigator frame. How convenient! -- TheBlunderbuss 19:38, 14 Apr 2005 (EDT)

I actually removed the link...it used to be there, but i removed it, to make room for the categories and mp3 links...If there's a high-enough demand, I can add it back... --Duke33 23:31, 14 Apr 2005 (EDT)

And how exactly are we going to gauge demand? Poll? TheBlunderbuss 00:07, 15 Apr 2005 (EDT)

New songs

There are new songs available for download at TMBG.com

E Eats Everything and Flying V

"Recorded LIVE at the Amoeba Records in-store in Los Angeles - the coolest record store in the world!" -- TheBlunderbuss 20:24, 29 Apr 2005 (EDT)

Search Plugin

Alternatively, one can use a keyword search.

You open the site, right click on the search bar, click Add a Keyword Search..., name it, and then pick a string to separate it from other keyword searches.

For example, you could put the string as "tmbg" for this site and "imdb" for imdb.com. When you enter this into the address bar, followed by a space, you can input directly into those searches.

Also, if there are more options to the form by way of, say, a pull-down menu, the effects change. If an imdb person keyword search is desired, select the People option from the pull=down menu, add the Keyword search (eg "imdbppl") and you've separated the general search from the people search!

I think this method is faster and better than a pull-down plugin, so it should be mentioned on the plugin page

I'll make a note to do that. Thanks for the info...I hadn't tried that before! --Duke33 15:15, 9 Jun 2005 (EDT)

Medley Chronology

-Something I've encountered (and saw coming) during my ventures into the chronology pages is the phenomenon of the medley. These songs have two chronologies from which to draw their history, yet when one clicks on its chronology link, it only lists the chronology of one of the songs. I've put together a page for Chronology:Doctor Worm / The Famous Polka (Live) as a separate page, not a redirect. I guess I'm asking for your input here. What do you think of it? Should the songs be listed by year (as they usually are) or by song (perhaps the first song's chron. on the top and the second song's on the bottom) or should this page simply be a type of disambiguation page with links to both song's chronology (see They Got Lost) [Now that I'm typing this up, this seems like the better idea]. Is this even a good idea? Any other ideas? I'll wait for a comment before I do any others.

As an aside; I noticed that it now takes two cartrige returns (Enter) for that lovely blank space between the table and the nav stub. --badqueso 01:08, 8 Aug 2005 (EDT)

hodg(e)man

well, dawgit, i guess you learn something everyday. -Nosaj56 22:53, 3 Oct 2005 (EDT)

Tempo page

I was thinking a page that lists tempos and their songs. If not, then a page for the songs with tempo changes (not including fermatas and credenzas). What do you think about each? -- TheBlunderbuss 15:49, 4 Nov 2005 (EST)

No, not time signature. Tempo. 120 beats per minute, songs that speed up dramatically -- neat features to songs. -- TheBlunderbuss 22:47, 4 Nov 2005 (EST)

Also, I have a more precise method of figuring out tempos than that troubled, online beat-per-minute calculator. -- TheBlunderbuss 17:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

If you want to bring this up again and get momentum for it, you can post a message on the Talk:TMBW To-Do List page. --Duke33 17:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

Spam Alert

Mama36 is a coolhost spammer. He is spamming lots of pages. --BlarJotunn

Venue Songs

Whoops, sorry about that! No idea how I missed the CD/DVD page. Well, probabaly because it wasn't linked on the Venue Songs page. Oh, well. :D -CapitalQ

run time field

thanks for adding the run time field. I always thought it was needed. -Nosaj56 10:04, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

I got him to do it :) -- TheBlunderbuss 21:47, 21 Nov 2005 (EST)

Could you also, maybe, add the run time to the Chronology pages? I felt that adding the time was important because it helped you figure out which version you are listening to. -- TheBlunderbuss 02:32, 28 Nov 2005 (EST)

Yep, that's on ThisMightBeABot's to-do list...might take a few days though. --Duke33 11:23, 28 Nov 2005 (EST)

thanks for the thanks

thanks for the thanks about the venue songs screenshots. I was wondering...are you into show trading? you can see most of the shows I have on my page, although I do have more. -Nosaj56 17:23, 27 Nov 2005 (EST)

Lyric formatting

I've seen some lyric pages with the text in a box. Is this the correct formatting that we want to adopt? -- TheBlunderbuss 15:38, 6 Dec 2005 (EST)

I'm open to discussion on a standard. We really don't have one today. See the lyrics talk section.

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Alright, I have something good. I have it so you can copy and paste... it's kinda iffy on how we could implement this. It works as is, though.

http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php/User:Ecks/LyricsTest

-Ecks

a few suggestions for the bot

hey, I seem to have found a problem with the bot. it hasn't been been linking up the chronology pages of alternate versions to the main ones. I seen that you've been doing that yourself manually. it would be nice if you could set it up to continually update chronology pages (add run time, year, and differences info every six hours) and link up an alternate version of a song if it is not already there. I see that it was a previous project. -Nosaj56 11:04, 22 Dec 2005 (EST)

Yeah - he's supposed to be doing that. I'm not sure what's going on, but I'll try to look into it tonight. --Duke33 11:20, 22 Dec 2005 (EST)

searching for apostrophes

I seem to have found a bug, Duke. try searching for anything on the wiki that has an apostrophe in it, like I've Got A Match. I always get a page saying "An appropriate representation of the requested resource /wiki/index.php/Special:Search could not be found on this server." Here it is: [2] -Nosaj56 10:56, 26 Dec 2005 (EST)

yes, i noticed that a few days ago as well. I have no idea why, but it's weird that this started happening around the same time that our account got suspended...hmmm...I'll look into it. Thanks for the heads up. --brad

Fixed - don't know why, but a change to our .htaccess file fixed it. Thanks again for the heads up Nosaj. --Duke33 22:36, 28 Dec 2005 (EST)

Round edges

Great addition to the Wiki, they look beautiful! :D Just one question, though. Is there any way to make them Internet Explorer compatibile? -CapitalQ 15:34, 29 Dec 2005 (EST)

Actually, i can't take full credit. We used to have them that way a long time ago, and then those changes got lost somehow. Then, I saw a custom css file that Seancdaug made, that had them in it. That jogged my memory, so i copied it again to our custom .css. As for doing it in IE, i'll check into it, but i don't think it works for both browsers.

MP3s

Do you think that maybe it's a bad thing that users can upload anything they want and then link to it on the wiki? File:Different Town (Demo).mp3 has been on here for months, you wanna go ahead and kill that? It's ripped from a commercial DVD, and Matt & Mike Chapman (claim to) make their living selling their h*r merch. -TDK 11:57, 2 Jan 2006 (EST)

Alternate Venue Songs Libretto

It's hard to say where to put them so that users can easily search for them. Perhaps in the "lyrics" namespace individually but also together as one complete opus. - Kayakcup 18:05, 3 Jan 2006 (EST)

Oh sorry. I just needed a place to host the files. Am I not allowed to do that? Sorry. -Flipsticker

Sig

Can you have a sig?—The thing ^Talk 19:26, 4 Jan 2006 (EST) I do. By the way my name is Brad.—The thing ^Talk 17:33, 5 Jan 2006 (EST)

Actually, he's asking if they're allowed. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 17:05, 20 Jan 2006 (EST)

I noticed while fiddling with my preferences and trying out all the skins that we've somehow got a tagline (or something like that) that says "The Free Encyclopedia" which is Wikipedia's subtitle. This was when I was using the Cologne Blue skin. Right at the top left under a giant "This Might Be A Wiki" banner were the words "The Free Encyclopedia." Since you've been deep inside the guts and inner workings of the wiki lately (I assume that's required during a server move) I figured you could change it while you're in there. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 17:02, 20 Jan 2006 (EST)

Um remember the title here?? Sig Hello?? —The thing ^Talk 21:10, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)

Oh yeah, sure. Having a signature page is no problem at all. Go right ahead. --Duke33 21:13, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)

Luke

I see you've finally banned that Luke fellow's main IP, good job. However, he has another IP which he also uses frequently, 198.170.183.237. Look at that IP's contributions (such as 'My name is Luke, you disrespectful geek'), and see for yourself. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 10:26, 26 Jan 2006 (EST)

Urgh..yeah, that guy. I struggled with what to do about him. He seemed to go through phases where he would make legit edits, then he would go into a flurry of asking pointless and inane questions on the talk pages, and demanding answers. And, don't get me started on the whole "Perricone Prescription" thing with Mink Car. I gave him several warnings, and then this morning when he asked another pointless question on the LTW talk page, i just decided that he was more maintenance than he was worth. Too bad for him, i guess. Maybe he'll grow up some day. --Duke33 10:46, 26 Jan 2006 (EST)

The really annoying part is that he asks the same exact questions over and over. For instance, the one you banned him for today, he's asked at least twice before, and he was given answers as well the previous times. It's a good thing that he's gone, he really caused nothing but annoyance. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 10:53, 26 Jan 2006 (EST)

Thank f*cking gawd. I don't hang out here enough to notice this kind of stuff usually but that guy was terrible. Good job. - extrafacelol

Wiki

Check this out My wiki! —The thing ^Talk 21:21, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)

Did you check it out?? —The thing ^Talk 09:42, 28 Jan 2006 (EST)

You know, you're bordering on small scale spam, there, The Thing. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 15:16, 6 Feb 2006 (CST)

Okay. But just to let ya know my wiki is now this. Sooo... no more spam. —The thing ^Talk 13:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

Favorite Songs page issue

If you go to the Favorite Songs page, and click on any song with a "/" in its name, you're brought to an error page. If you take the URL produced when you click something with a slash, and replace the %2F with a slash, it works, so fixing that shouldn't be too hard. Although I'm not really sure what fixing something like that entails. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 22:50, 27 Jan 2006 (EST)

Babel

I've created all (I think) of the necessary templates. I suppose we need to brainstorm what boxes to make. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 16:55, 9 Feb 2006 (CST)

FYI: I changed the Wikipedia and HRWiki tamplates to require a parameter of whatever your user name is at those sites, because it was kind of stupid of me to assume that everybody would use the exact same username at multiple wikis. That broke my user page, yours, and nobody else's. I fixed yours for you. Just so you know why I edited your user page.

side project show section

duke, could the wiki have a section for Mono Puff and John Linnell and the Statesman shows? I should be able to fill it out a little bit. -Nosaj56 15:59, 14 Feb 2006 (CST) Sure - that's no problem at all. Feel free to add as much info as you can. --Duke33 11:25, 15 Feb 2006 (CST)

Upload problem again

Scott fixed it last time, but I figured you might also be able to. New Server and MediaWiki 1.4.12 Migration Issue Tracker Page -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 16:31, 14 Feb 2006 (CST)

Spam Blacklist Problem

Okay, check this out.. when I try to implement the code on my wiki that we discussed, a bunch of crap is added to the top of every page on the site. Here's a screen shot of what I'm talking about. Any ideas? -TDK 23:20, 22 Feb 2006 (CST)

TMBG Concert

Yo man! I was at the show at 2005-07-23 and I just got on to TMBW.

Yeah - it was a good show...looks like the wiki was represented well - there were four of us there, so far. --Duke33 15:17, 2 Mar 2006 (CST)

Tracks

On the Main Talk discussion page, someone was talking about how it's not immediately obvious which album the track number corresponds to on each song page, especially when there's 5 or more albums listed, and I agree with him. Sometimes, like in the case of Token Back To Brooklyn, the first album listed isn't actually the one that the track number represents. I was thinking that a great way to show which album the track number was for would be to make the album's name bold on each song page. I bolded Long Tall Weekend on Token Back To Brooklyn's page to see how it looks, and it came out great. If you like the idea as well, do you think it'd be a good task for ThisMightBeABot? -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 09:32, 6 Mar 2006 (CST)

Hmmm..i'm not sure that i'm wild about it. It's still kind of vague as to why one of the fields is bolded. At the very least, they can click on the link and view the page, and then it should make sense. What do you think? --Duke33 12:17, 6 Mar 2006 (CST)

Using {{PAGENAME}} in babel boxes

Right now the Song votes, Contributions and Show attendance babels all have a flaw, they use {{PAGENAME}} in the URL. Normally it's not a problem, but if a user has more than one word in their name, the babel won't work properly. Instead, it'll link to a page with the first word of their name, and put the other words into the text displayed in the babel. I can't think of any easy fix for this, but if using Pagename put underscores where spaces normally were, the problem would be fixed. Could that be done/is it worth it? -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 07:18, 10 Mar 2006 (CST)

Just use PAGENAMEE (with two e's at the end) at that should fix it. I've done it, so let me know if you still see a problem. --Duke33 07:26, 10 Mar 2006 (CST)

Problem: the song vote and show attendance pages for a specific user (with more than one word in their name) only show what that user actually did when there isn't an underscore in the URL. PAGENAMEE used in a URL produces http://tmbw.net/votes/shows/showsByUser.php3?userid=The_thing, which, as you can see, is a blank page. Removing the underscore makes the page work. Would the creation of a PAGENAMEEE be in order, to use %20 instead of an underscore? -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 18:54, 16 Mar 2006 (CST)

Song Voting System

Hey, Duke. I was wondering if you would like to work with me to make a version of the song voting system for HRWiki to rank emails and maybe just toons in general with. So, basically I want to know if a) I have your permission and b) if you can help me do it. What do you say? -AtionSong 20:10, 18 Mar 2006 (CST) --AtionSong 20:10, 18 Mar 2006 (CST)

Thanks for the thought AtionSong, but the Homestar Runner Wiki isn't interested in a voting system. -- Tom 20:18, 18 Mar 2006 (CST)

Alright. -AtionSong

HRWiki

Do you still ever go on the Homestar Runner Wiki? 69.205.189.198 20:11, 31 Mar 2006 (CST)

Oh yeah-almost every day at lunch hour...although, i only occasionally edit there.--Duke33 20:13, 31 Mar 2006 (CST)

Me

I am The thing logged in as The bot thing. Can User:The_bot_thing please be a bot? The bot thing 11:09, 8 Apr 2006 (CDT) P.S. The bot thing is me.

I think that I'd prefer to keep bot access restricted to admins at this time. If there's something that you need us to take care of, both of our bots are pretty customizable, and should be able to take care of it for you. --Duke33 17:01, 9 Apr 2006 (CDT)

PNG thumbnail problem

After some serious digging around in the database of the MediaWiki installation on my PC, I think I has the solution: ImageMagick. That did the trick for me. Is it running here? — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 02:27, 12 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Hail Duke

User_talk:Droffats. There is a discussion that implores your attention. --Droffats 21:22, 12 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Venue Songs Script

Where did you end up putting the two versions of the Venue Songs scripts I added in January? Should there be a link to it from the Venue Songs page? Kayakcup 18:44, 8 May 2006 (EST)

They're all accessible from Venue Songs (DVD/CD), by going to the lyrics page for each DVD narration piece. :) -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 17:53, 8 May 2006 (CDT)

Deleting Talk pages

I've noticed that several Talk pages on the wiki have been left alone when the corresponding article page has been deleted (like the recent Lyrics Talk:Uncool). It could be a good job for User:ThisMightBeABot to round them all up and delete them or tag them for deletion. Though some of the pages may be in need of articles instead of deleting, so you might want to look through them. --badqueso 13:34, 27 May 2006 (CDT)

2 TMBaB jobs

Can ThisMightBeABot do these things?

• Copy run times from song pages to chronologies (lots of empty space there!)
• Copy page titles to song name fields, or place a {{PAGENAME}} tag (Different entries cause confusion)

Sincerely - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 02:36, 11 Jun 2006 (MDT)

Well, I could always get Q-Bot to do the second task, but I don't think it's really necessary. The song's title isn't always written like the page title is, and vice versa. We've pretty much got them set up correctly for most songs already, there's probably only a dozen or less that need some tweaking. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 07:10, 11 Jun 2006 (MDT)

I'm working on the 1st task right now. Almost ready to unleash. Q - you want to take the 2nd? If not, I can do it. --Duke33 19:01, 11 Jun 2006 (MDT)

Well, like I said, I don't think it's really necessary. Take No! (Song) for instance; the song's name is really just "No!". See what I mean? -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 19:06, 11 Jun 2006 (MDT)

Warning: minor misbehaviour detected - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 05:41, 22 Jun 2006 (MDT)

That's because the song page was created yesterday, with no No Run Time template. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 05:42, 22 Jun 2006 (MDT)

Another idea:

• Copy appearances from the song page to the chronology page

- Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 19:10, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, i'm reworking how the bot cleans up chronology pages...I'll look into that. --Duke33 17:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

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Moving lyrics, guitar tabs, bass tabs, interpretations, and votes whenever a song page is moved. (Runs every fifteen minutes)

What about this neat feature? Is TMBaB malfunctioning? - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 17:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

A Small Problem

Hi Brad. Let's say that I accidently deleted my wiki's main page, and as a result the counter is reset. Do you know if there is any way to restore the number of page accesses that I had? (about 36,000) -TDK 04:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

Bot issue (Maybe)

Hi.

(I really have no idea if its a bot issue or not. It might be arrogant of me to just jump to that conclusion, please don't take this as some kind of diagnosis on my part. I should go back and edit it to say "An Issue" but my dad told me the world only spins forwards.)

So, I went to the kids show on 11/18/2006 (listed as 2006-11-18a) but I didn't attend the evening show (listed as 2006-11-18). But when I click "I attended this show" it doesn't list my name. It DOES list my name on the evening show, which I didn't attend. And I don't want to be seen as a liar.

Or am I doing something wrong? -DKC December 8th, 2006 01:03 PM Eastern Time

Hmmm...It's not a bot issue...just a problem with one of my scripts. I'll take a look at it tonight when I'm home. Thanks for catching that! --Duke33 19:17, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Fixed it...believe it or not, it wasn't a problem with the script at all...The field in the database was only set to allow 10 characters, so the "a" was getting chopped off. It's fixed now. Great catch! --Duke33 00:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

Right now...

I'm not sure what exactly you're doing right now, but I've got nothing to do and would be happy to help with your mindless-task-looking-thing if you'd like. I've got iTunes, so I'm guessing I could help do it. ~ magbatz

Sure, if you want to help, we don't have much in the way of downloads for itunes left. I have Severe Tire Damage and 21-36 of disc one of Then The Earlier Years left to do. Badqueso said that he would help out some on STD. So, it's safe to do the remaining TTEY tracks, and then whatever STD tracks aren't done.. I'm done for now. Let me know if you have questions. All you need to do is copy the URL right in itunes (right click on the song), and then cut/paste the "playListId" and "i" parameters into the download templates. Thanks! --Duke33 02:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Not Vandalism

I think that somehow our ideas got miss communicated. I come from a performance art background and know a little about what was happening in NYC just before TMBG formed. I thought that some of the connections between the two would be useful here. When I first wrote the articles about this, that were later edited by others including Magbatz and CapitolQ, a couple of the original links got deleted. I think this is what made you think that it was vandalism. I am sorry for the confusion, but I would never intend to vandalize such a great wiki and repository of information about my favorite band. This is a wiki, and I understand that you can edit as you wish. That is cool; I just don't want to be labeled a vandal, as that is truly and utterly contrary to my intent. I am very sorry I missed the old deleted link and did not better inform the content of the song theme pages in which the songs reside.

Yeah, after I made that comment, I looked at the history of the page, and saw that it was you, and immediately realized that I was wrong about it. No sweat though, and i apologize about mistakenly calling it vandalism. --Duke33 01:21, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

They Must Be Giants

Do you like my new template?

Honestly, i don't get it...what's "They Must Be Giants"? Are you referring to Gloria? --Duke33 15:25, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

No, it's They Got Lost (Live STD). Flans called the band that.

That wasn't Flans... -64.233.178.136 16:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

YES IT WAS! (and if it isn't, then who is it?)

Return of the haunted extension

It seems that the lyrics extension is once again placing itself on the bottom of any random page of the wiki (even special pages like Recent changes), this time more frequently than last. In fact, there's like a one in ten chance that it doesn't happen. Just take a look. Mega-yikes. :x -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 18:05, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Question about the new lyrics thing

How is it that you can make the instrumental template work inside of the new <lyrics.> tags? Just curious. ~ magbatz 21:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

The extension produces its output in a different way (doesn't process it through <pre>s) if the input matches {{Instrumental}}. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 21:38, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

Parse error OMG

Whenever I try to follow a link from the recent changes page I get an error along the lines of

Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_ELSE in /home/tmbwnet/public_html/wiki/extensions/admin/PatrolSongRatings.php on line 54

Are the extensions going crazy? Or is it just me? - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 21:09, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Two minutes later: Seems to be working again.You should have a look at it though. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 21:12, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

Sorry about that...I was making a couple of updates to our extensions, and unfortunately, it throws an error for the entire site, not just the page that i'm working on, when there is a syntax error. I'm done now though! Brad

!!

don't call my stuff garbage!--71.220.206.127 00:08, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

SQL Error

Lyrics:Bangs_(McSweeney's)

All signs point to a string not being properly escaped - wherever that's supposed to happen - before being fed to SQL.

It seems to have self-corrected now. --Duke33 18:02, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

png resizing

ImageMagick probably needs to be upgraded. pngs should resize fine after that. Alternatively, it may be resulting from compression artifacts created by converting a jpeg to png. Some, like File:LongTallWeekendCover.png, resize superbly. Others, like File:Different town.PNG, don't. I'll see if I can't get to the bottom of it. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:06, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm...we had imagemagick disabled...how, i don't know. But, here's the weird thing, it's throwing an error when it tries to convert PNG's. See here for an example. Any ideas anyone? --Duke33 23:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

It's disabled by default, so it was probably never enabled. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 21:40, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

We probably need to purge all the badly rendering pngs from the server cache, too. As far as that error, I'm not getting it. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 21:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Okay, now I see it doesn't come up on image description pages. I suspect $wgImageMagickConvertCommand may be the culprit. — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 22:26, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm..I'm still looking into it. Not sure what the heck is going on. ImageMagick is enabled now, with the latest version, but I must not have configured it correctly. --Duke33 14:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Hey, it's working! — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 09:40, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

ARE YOU ABSOLUTELY CRAZY?!

Seriously. What's your problem with the deep insights and moving melodies of Pigs? [3] Have you no heart? ~ magbatz 03:18, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh wow. This made even me feel bad. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 19:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Heh, I guess he doesn't like the song. :-P --Luke 19:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

Oh - I was talking about my own vote of not ten.- Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 20:10, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

In my defense, I used a very scientific method for voting for this song: a half of a point for every second long that it is.  :) --Duke33 00:09, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Zing! --Luke 00:19, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

April Fools Theme

Just a suggestion, but is there a way that I can keep the azure theme but with yesterday's color scheme and use that as a skin? It looked great. I'd just wookie=on, but then I wouldn't get the true wiki.--tehbagel ( o ) 04:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I second that. While I still would probably use Monobook, the green scheme looked a lot cooler. ~ magbatz 04:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

A LOT cooler.--tehbagel ( o ) 04:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

I talked to Gena, and she made it a permanent skin, called "Deciduous". Enjoy! --Duke33 15:08, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

SWEET!!!! =D--71.227.156.73 21:21, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Shows Glitch

I was enjoying the new shows search engine and I noticed a glitch which may or may not be a result of it. On this page the venue should be Slim's, and in some of the links to it it is correctly labeled. But on the page itself it claims to be Amoeba Records - the location of a mini-concert earlier that day. Attempting to edit the page shows the correct entry of Slim's. Ditto this page which should have the venue as The Edge but lists it as a radio concert from earlier the same day. Any idea what's up? -Tisher 07:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

This is actually related to a change that Jon made, that's not part of the show searching. Jon - can you take a look? --Duke33 13:23, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Easy fix. I'll do it when I get on my PC in an hour. Sorry for the trouble! -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 14:20, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Okey doke, that's done. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 15:25, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Searchy

Dang, you launched it without me. Oh, well. If you want, I can take over on the ParserFunction aspect when I get home later. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 13:25, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

I've got a backup of ShowQuery from a few days ago (latest version after my edits), I'll upload when I get home. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 15:27, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Attendance/Setlist search glitch

On the Show Attendance By User function, there was a whole bunch of extra text related to shows next to the Joe's Pub night concert [4]. I'm not at all sure why it does that (it only seems to be for this one user); just pointing it out. ~ magbatz

... oh, he might've somehow recorded that he was going to attend something that was never a show. ~ magbatz

He probably marked a show, and then someone renamed the page / moved it. I can fix it later...don't have time right now though.--Duke33 12:33, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Ahhh...believe it or not, he was one of the few people who had attended a Linnell or Mono Puff show, and the logic i wrote was ignoring those shows (unintentionally). Believe it or not, i made the fix with two simple lines of code, which shocked me. --Duke33 15:21, 21 April 2007 (UTC)

Another thing about the shows function... On a setlist search for a song (eg, Special:SetlistSearch?queryText=Ant), the results for the venues and for the cities are sent back to the setlist search, instead of to the show search. ~ magbatz 00:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. :] -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 00:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

New strange problem... For the songs played at the first show, Shows/1982-08-?? (though at the moment it's a redirect since I can't move it back-- sorry about that), such as Cowtown, the song pages display that the "First Played" date was Jan. 1, 1970 while still linking directly to the right page. It has something to do with the question marks, I'm pretty sure, since when the oldest show date is changed to "Shows/1982-08" it goes right ahead to the next performance, and the page in any normal title-format makes it work fine. I have no idea how this thing even works, so it beats me. On the list things to do, it's not all that important since this is the only date with the ??'s in the title, but, I'm just confused as to why it's choosing "1-1-1970". Hope it's nothing troublesome! ~ magbatz 12:08, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah - that's been there for a while. There's not much we can do about it...except adding a bunch of hacks in there to account for one single show. Too bad we can't figure out the real date. --Duke33 14:39, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

I just noticed that you moved it to 8/3. Were you just playing, or did you find out if that was the real date? --Duke33 14:41, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Just fiddling around, unfortunately :[

"First Played / ## Performances" Problems

New setlist thing - I don't know how long (could have been the last wiki update) this has been, but whatever you used to make the feature on Cowtown (Demo) show that Cowtown has been played x times now won't chop off the "(Demo)" part (so pages will say there's only been 1 live performance or often none). ~ magbatz 17:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

...What I said above is still not working. Also, I just realized that any Show pages that link to a redirect (say, a show linking to Cage & Aquarium rather than Cage & Aquarium) doesn't get counted in the known performances in the song page. I'm not sure if there was any fix for that little problem back before show performances got glitchy, but I figured it was worth pointing out to you. If there is no fix for that, then give the word and we can all have a little party and go out and fix all the (probably) hundreds of redirects, but if so, a quick fix would be quite swell. ~ magbatz 22:39, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

I ran a script to fix Cage & Aquarium. Let me know how that goes. For other redirects, let me know, and we can fix them too. --Duke33 03:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

News Updates

Is there any way I can be notified by email or something when new news is added? Thanks a bunch! (Andrewzors 05:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC))

We don't have any type of notification for our Main Page news set up yet (not even an official RSS feed), but I was thinking about it earlier this week. Maybe Duke and I can figure something out. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 11:07, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

Cool, thanks! (Andrewzors 00:39, 1 May 2007 (UTC))

Username Change

Is there a way for you to change my username? I am aware that bureaucrats are able to do this, and as you are the only one, is it possible for you to change my name to "WhatIsThatThing"? As my current one (SonicFan) has grown old and untrue with time, I have taken to using this one more. Also, if there is a section for this, I apologize. Move it if necessary. As you can see, WhatIsThatThing is already my nickname--> WhatIsThatThing 19:49, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Try it now. --Duke33 00:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Only problem is the two shows I "went" to (one I listened to live and the other hasn't happened yet) are still counted as SonicFan. I have no way to change this. WhatIsThatThing 04:03, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

of Montreal

Hissing Fauna is really great. Suffer For Fashion is a great song to dance to. They will play here in Vienna on Sunday, and I'll be there, kind of as a reward for being half-through the finals. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 09:31, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

I've heard that Kevin Barnes does a good live show. Also, if you haven't heard it already, check out "Spanish Dance Troupe"...it used to be available for free on their site, and might still be. --Duke33 19:22, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

ShowQuery extension?

Hi there! I'm a longtime TMBG fan, but not very involved in the online fandom. I just stumbled upon your terrific site because I was looking for an spam-ad free lyrics resource to link to when quoting TMBG in a totally unrelated journal post...

What I was wondering is if your MediaWiki extensions for tracking concert histories are available for use on other wikis, under any sort of free licensing?

I have recently begun moving my hand-maintained chronology for another band into a Wikia site so that others can help with it, but even as an experienced Wikipedian I was daunted by the level of template wizardry that would be required to get some of the "database-like" capability that I was hoping for. Your functionality is exactly what I was hoping for! Wikia's pretty good about installing user-requested extensions, so it would be wonderful if you are willing to share the code; of course I understand if you are not.

Please let me know what you think on my talk page or by email. Thanks very much! Artslave 18:03, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

minor thing

Just reminding that you need to change the main page/monobook page to make [http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php?title=Template:Current_events&action=edit Add/Edit a news item] apply to the main page for us monobookies. ~ magbatz 04:58, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

geeky topics

If you don't like List of geeky TMBG topics could you undelete it to my userspace, or at least put a copy of the last version there? Thanks; I didn't keep a copy. AaronSw 17:40, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

Glitch on Other Bands You Might Like If You Like TMBG

When ordered by their ratings, the bands with more than 10 votes are being placed after the bands with less than 10 votes, and it's the same with bands with more than 20 votes. I hope that observation helps. :-)

Yeah...it sorts by the percentage first...and there isn't any real secondary sorting. Sorry...it's just the way the JS works. Not much we can do about it.--Duke33 03:05, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Okay.. if I correctly interpreted your problem, then it's fixed. It now sorts by percent, then number of votes. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 10:45, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

The Go! Team

I was glad to see you bought TLS. Hope you like it. The Go! Team, while not my second favorite band besides TMBG, does hold 2nd place in my book of how many concerts i've seen. I'm a huge fan. --Antgeth 18:09, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

If they ever head my way, I'd love to see them in concert. If they can match the level of energy that the cd has, i'm sure it would be a great show. --Duke33 13:44, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

edit patrols

hey, I was trying to "patrol" an edit I left on a page, like you reccommended, but I get the message that says "you cannot patrol your own edits"... so what do I do? Do I wait for the person I left the message to to patrol it? Hopefully you're the right person to ask Jade

At the risk of sounding stupid, what is meant by 'patrolling' an edit? Sorry... -Ganna

When you patrol and edit, those little red exclamation points in Recent Changes go away. All new edits have them until they're patrolled, so admins know to check them and make sure they're not spam. Akagi 22:52, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

hey, nevermind... I just created a new account solely for patrolling my edits... hope that doesn't create a problem. Jade

Okay, I get it now. I'll do the same as Jade. - Ganna

Well, that's interesting. I didn't know that. Let me look into it some more--Duke33 03:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, it's only sysops who can patrol their own edits. Though I'm sure you could find a way to change that if you wanted to. Akagi 03:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

Trumpet

So, you play it too huh? Well, I've been thinking that maybe we should put some "tabs" for Trumpet, for the kinda people who don't have the money to learn guitar/bass/drums/etc. Maybe aim higher, maybe just put one for etc. instruments with treble clef and some with a bass clef? Bad Idea? I don't know, but I do know that I am in serious need of some TMBG sheets. --Dunklekuh81

I used to play back in high school...but that's been quite a while. I'm sure my lips are in no kind of condition to play anymore! I'd love to get other kinds of tabs on the site, but unfortunately, I'm probably not as musically inclined as some of the other people around here...so go for it, if you can do it!

--Duke33 11:27, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I have the beginning of the Guitar on Ana Ng already, but that's it. I still have to work on the "Foreign Nation" part. --Dunklekuh81

Re: Uploading pics

Thanks a lot :) I wanted to double-check just to make sure I didn't accidently mess anything up. --Hermy-o-ninny

123s Notice

If you're trying for a more overt way for people to notice the big 123s sale like you just did as a Site Notice, have you considered making a little advertisement-looking space under the navigation sidebar (or whatever its equivalent is in Azure)? Like with Haughty Melodic. ~ magbatz 21:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Wow...I'm shocked anyone remembered that! --Duke33 17:40, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Lyrics formatter

Hello. I saw your name when looking at Special:Version. I'm looking for the "lyrics formatter" which I believe you authored. Actually, I'm looking for whatever extension adds the "<lyrics>" parser extension. Is it downloadable somewhere? If the answer is "no", then is there some way I can get you to email it to me? (I can email you my address) Thank you very much for your time. 69.143.40.110 23:38, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Brad's Lyrics extension is not available for download, and was designed and written specifically to function for this website. I'm not sure if he would be willing to distribute it, but regardless, you should first try out the free and similar extension "Poem", available at MediaWiki. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 00:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

If you want to email me, I can send you a copy of it...It's nothing fancy. You'd have to know PHP, in order to tweak it to make it work for your site. --Duke33 01:03, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Chart stuff

It is very awesome of you to do all that chart work. And album descriptions too. Yay! ~ magbatz 20:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Unltd. Pages

I can go ahead and help with some of the monthly pages. I just didn't want to be stepping on your toes in case you already had more of the pages made. How about I take whatever the latter half of the pile is? Or something. ~ magbatz 02:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Go for it! I hadn't started anything...just did one, to see how it looked. --Duke33 04:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Desperately Seeking TMBG Song Recording Dates

Great site guys, terrific resource.

Short version: I want and cannot find the release dates (and/or recording dates) for Then: The Earlier Years bonus tracks.

Long version: I'm really anal retentive about iTunes so I always fill in the fields on the tags with the correct information, cover art from the first release of the song (as opposed to a greatest hits) so on and so on. Particularly I like to sort songs by year and while I know Lincoln came out in 88, EP release dates, etc. I can find no other "year" data for the bonus tracks except 1997, the compilation release date!!! Since NONE of these tracks were recorded near '97 this is annoying. I don't really need the specific month or day or hour, just the year that songs like The Big Big Whoredom, Doris Cunningham, etc. were actually recorded (or put on Dial-A-Song.) I've looked everywhere - this wiki, the official sites, Wikipedia, Google searches to infinity, and I'm coming up with nothing. Can you help point me to this data? THANKS!

Glad to hear that you like the site. Most of the individual song pages have the dates on them (and also the dates that they were first known to have been played). For songs like Doris Cunningham, check the Chronology page for more info. Most of the ones I looked at have the info. You may just have to dig into each song individually. --Duke33 23:52, 16 March 2008 (UTC)

Bot Mess-Up

I forget the link to the list of users, but if User:Binky1984 recently registered, his/her Welcome speech was for some reason posted to the page Binky1984 instead of User talk:Binky1984. ~ magbatz 16:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Yep - I made some changes to the bot code last night, and unfortunately, i have no way to test that, without creating bogus accounts. I had noticed that today, and I've got it on my to-do list. Thanks! --Duke33 16:36, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Appel Farm?

Hey. Are you going? Do you have your ticket? I have two extras. -TDK

KOL

I noticed that someone on the KOL wiki was adding TMBG wiki links in all the reference sections of pages. It is from a user Mandaliet, is that you on KOL?

Nope - I have an account over there, but it's my same userid -- Duke33. I kinda gave up the game after New Year's this year. Mandaliet is aka Asa Pillsbury. --Duke33 03:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Twitter

Hi - I'd like to follow the shows feed on twitter. I was going to make a twitter account and link the feed to the account using twitterfeed - but I thought it might be better if you did it; then you could publicise it here. -- Simon

I threw something together...check it out: http://twitter.com/tmbw I'm open to any suggestions anyone has for the format. --Duke33 14:10, 30 September 2008 (UTC)

Good Updates

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for a few of the recent big (from my perspective, I guess) edits. That Shows KML for Google Maps is long overdue and obviously helps out a lot. And clearing out the Johns' articles makes this website a less creepy place. That stuff weirded me out and was likely way out of date anyway. --badqueso 06:47, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

As for the shows stuff, yeah, that wasn't actually too difficult. When i pulled the shows code apart a few months ago, i made it so that I could hook in and create new feeds fairly easily. So, other than the fact that the documentation on KML was not the greatest, it wasn't too bad. And, the John and John stuff -- i agree -- it was kinda obsessive sounding, and didn't look the most professional. I think we still have a lot of work to do, but it's a step in the right direction, i think! --Duke33 16:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)

You Win

Azure Skin

Hey, I see that you created most (if not all) of the custom extensions here, so I'm assuming you're the one that wrote the Azure Skin.

I'm absolutely in love with this skin, is it available for download anywhere? It's such a visually appealing skin for MediaWiki, more so than any other that I've seen.

Thanks, Charlie 02:17, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Glad you like it...It was actually put together by Gena Wenli, one of our admins. It was custom-made for our site though, and we don't share it, as it is one of the things that helps our site maintain it's unique look and feel. Hope you understand. --Duke33 03:44, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

Re:Facebook group

Hello, Brad! No, I didn't create that group, but I went ahead and left it and joined yours instead. Thanks for the tip! --Arachnid flame

(what happened here?)

http://tmbw.net/wiki/index.php?title=Talk%3AAccordion&diff=180645&oldid=180633 (i suck at signatures, it's j2

Thanks for catching it...It looks like my bot went a bit screwy once and edited the wrong page. --Duke33 13:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)

CAN'T BELIEVE I DID THAT

CHANGING NOW

yay!

thought i should make my 5000th more meaningful than the 4000th — so thank you so much for this incredibly awesome wiki! i wouldn't appreciate tmbg nearly as much as i do if this site didn't exist. immeasurable thanks to you and really, everyone that's contributed to this place! go tmbw! -- 18:59, 6 August 2009 (UTC)

TMBG NOMINATED FOR SCREAM SONG OF THE YEAR

I'm not sure if you're aware, but The Johns have been nominated for the Spike TV Scream Song of the Year at the 2009 Scream Awards for their Other Father Song from Coraline. I don't know if you all ready know this, but I didn't see it on the main page (or maybe I didn't see it) but the link is below. Hope this helps.

http://www.spike.com/event/scream2009/page/vote/category/33121