Talk:Why Does The Sun Shine? (Science Version)

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Can I just say after all these years it is incredibly disorienting to hear Linnell's voice come in to sing this song....

I disagree. I've heard this song many times through live bootlegs, and at live shows, I'm quite used to hearing Linnell sing, and Flansy explain. To be honest, I like it better. -- Jason DeLima - ! - 17:16, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
I've been listening to bootlegs and seeing these guys play live since waay before you were born, actually, so it's strange that you say that- Linnell usually takes the high harmony and Flans sings the lead, like on the second chorus of this new recording... the switch to Flans explaining on a regular basis was a fairly recent one too... Anyway, it's disorienting to *me* and not necessarily a good or a bad thing either!
Well, Linnell and Flansy did switch somewhere down the road, but back when the song was released, I know Flansy sang the lead while Linnell explains. So I can understand how it's disorienting to you. -- Jason DeLima - ! - 22:39, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

Auto-tune[edit]

Anyone catch the use of auto-tuned Linnell in this song? Not as obvious as in Bastard Wants To Hit Me, but you can hear it well on the first "mass" (0:07) and "we" (0:27) for example. Wout 13:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

I don't hear any auto-tune in there... --ΰΌΊπ„žπ„†β“†β“€β“”β“›βŽˆβ’Ήβ“žβ“œβ“œβ“β“–β“”π„‡ΰΌ» 23:36, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I went and listened to it and, in all technicality, I don't hear no Auto-tune -- DidgeGuy (ΰ€† ΰ€œ) 00:04, 21 March 2010
zomg, joke steal! I'm flattered, really. That said, it does sound a bit altered. -Apollo (moo) 00:12, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I changed it a bit to, shall I say, fit the mood. But you must admit, it does work. They say something like "Copying is the greatest form of flattery." -- DidgeGuy (ΰ€† ΰ€œ) 02:04, 22 March 2010

Fourth Best[edit]

This song was momentarily the fourth best rated song of all TMBG! DidgeGuy (ΰ€† ΰ€œ) 12:13, 12 March 2010 (CST)

Revised, it's fifth best. - 23:21, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Insides[edit]

Probably a really silly question, but why does JF sing 'a million earths could fit insides? --ΰΌΊπ„žπ„†β“†β“€β“”β“›βŽˆβ’Ήβ“žβ“œβ“œβ“β“–β“”π„‡ΰΌ» 23:34, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

i believe the "s" sound comes from the "-side" of the echoing vocal, making it sound like he says "insides"... i'll change the lyric page for now... it is possible of course that he is pluralising it. --ant 23:56, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I think it's just a slip of the tongue, nothing to do with echoing vocals. In I'm All You Can Think About, Linnell's "t" in "I was never much in your life, but now..." an "s"y hiss comes out too. I figure it's likely to happen since the tongue's in the same place for "t", "d", and "s", especially if you're singing loudly and thinking about the next thing you're going to say. ~ magbatz 00:52, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
I think it's the echo. You can hear the rest of the word "inside" (I guess "ide") after the "sss" noise. -Apollo (moo) 01:01, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
Here is what I'm hearing - "A million Earths could fit inside" (and at the very end of "inside" a very faint 's' which is, in turn, magnified by the echo of "inside," so the whole thing sound something like "insides(ide)".) But Linnells still got trouble pronouncing "Earths" (sounds like "Erss"). -- DidgeGuy (ΰ€† ΰ€œ) 01:48, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
You know, having listened again with that in mind, I do think it's just the echo of "inside" at a slightly inconvenient time. Thanks for clearing that up in my head! :D --ΰΌΊπ„žπ„†β“†β“€β“”β“›βŽˆβ’Ήβ“žβ“œβ“œβ“β“–β“”π„‡ΰΌ» 13:27, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

A gas?[edit]

Right, I apologise for being pedantic about the lyrics to this song; but surely it goes "Copper, iron, aluminum on the surface of the sun are all gas" not "...are a gas"? It sounds much more like "all" to me, and it'd make for better grammar... --ΰΌΊπ„žπ„†β“†β“€β“”β“›βŽˆβ’Ήβ“žβ“œβ“œβ“β“–β“”π„‡ΰΌ» 16:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC)

Move?[edit]

I've been thinking. Should we rename this page Why Does The Sun Shine? and the original version something like Why Does The Sun Shine? (EP Version)? Because, despite the EP also being an official TMBG release, Here Comes Science is an actual TMBG album, whereas the EP is...an EP. More people will probably be looking for this one or at least the Severe Tire Damage version.

When the question on what to name this page was originally posted on Talk:Here Comes Science, the reasoning for the (Science Version) suffix was that the live in-studio performances of Robot Parade and Sleepwalkers among others from the Amazon-exclusive Here Come The ABCs DVD had the (ABCs Version) suffix. That worked for those pages because those were live performances from the Amazon-exclusive DVD. This, however, is a re-recording from an official TMBG studio album.

So what do you guys think? Should we move this page? Should we not? — HotelDetectiveInTheFutureπŸͺ— talk 🎸 10:45, 6 April 2023 (CST)

My gut says to keep them where they are, as both were studio recordings of the song released on CD in the TMBG canon, but this one was a re-recording made 10+ years later. It's arguable that the Here Comes Science version has a potentially larger audience now, but both are on streaming services and imo, the EP track is notable for being the first recorded version. -CapitalQtalk ♪ 13:48, 6 April 2023 (EDT)