Talk:Stumpbox
1/5/04 Hey, I think the obivous question is : What is the "Stumpbox" and can I get one? If so, where? - Doctor Masonstein
1/6/04 Stumpbox, as I mentioned, is a bootleg. Stumpbox is getting increasingly rare, as I myself have only heard selections from it. However, what I have heard was really good. Anyway, I'd be happy to trade you for it over AIM (aol instant messaging) as soon as someone digitizes it and trades it to me. -Mr. Nuclear
Let us know when [or if] you get ahold of one. -Guest
I found that my dad downloaded a digital copy of Stumpbox from [REDACTED, find it yourself :3], so I guess I'll fill in some lyric pages eventually. SamuelMan36 15:26, 27 June 2012 (EDT)
- hold up! there's a reason a lot of these don't have lyric pages. tmbg didn't write any of the songs! for most of them it's not really necessary, i think. and besides, most of the lyrics are fumbled and mumbled because flans doesn't know 'em. -Apollo (colloquia!) 15:31, 27 June 2012 (EDT)
- Ah, I see your point. SamuelMan36 15:34, 27 June 2012 (EDT)
Does anyone know what year this is from?
- if we knew, we'd have the info here. --
01:27, 1 July 2014 (EDT)
Page cleanup project[edit]
I've spoken to ant and a few others about this now, and I think we can tidy up TMBW a bit by removing a few dozen pages associated with these bootlegs - mainly song pages and lyrics pages for tracks that only appear on these fan bootlegs and have never been otherwise released.
For example, just because TMBG performed Warrant's "Cherry Pie" live once in 1993 when a fan requested it during Stump the Band, doesn't necessarily make it notable enough to have its own wiki page. And just because a fan recording was later compiled onto a fan bootleg cassette in the '90s also doesn't really make it page-worthy (outside of being in the bootleg's track listing). If these recordings were officially released by TMBG (via UnLtd, etc) they would certainly be notable, but as it stands these pages for one-time performances tend to feel like clutter, and the associated lyrics pages are often full of ambiguity due to poor recording quality and the fact that many lyrics were misremembered or improvised. As such, the pages offer little information of value aside from things we can represent on the track list itself (title, original artist, track length and date of the performance if we know it).
Where things get slightly up for debate is the criteria for page deletion. I'm leaning toward one-off performances not having pages unless they were later released officially (like Yellow Submarine), played on the radio (like Smells Like Teen Spirit), or played more than once live (since that feels more deliberate). Anyone want to weigh in on this little cleanup job before things start getting deleted? -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 00:21, 30 August 2021 (EDT)
- I agree that these pages qualify as unnecessary clutter and I think the criteria for what to keep or ditch makes sense. --Self Called Nowhere (talk) 15:55, 30 August 2021 (EDT)
- I do agree the pages should be deleted but I also think info about the songs should be somewhere. Especially for Stumpbox Speak My Thoughts because that one is harder to find and has some weirder stuff, including one track that we don't even know what it is. TitanicFog (talk) 09:19, 31 August 2021 (EDT)
Combine the Stumpboxes into one page?[edit]
As part of the clean up process for the Stumpbox pages, should we consider combining all the Stumpboxes into one page?
I remember hearing CapitalQ suggest the idea offhandedly once (very offhandedly mind you), and I don't think it's a bad idea at all. Once I complete cleaning up the other Stumpbox pages, it would likely be fine then to put them all on one "Stumpbox Bootlegs" page.
What do you all think? --Chriscost0318 (talk)
- Sure, as long as each bootleg retains all its information from it’s original page. TitanicFog (talk) 08:31, 17 September 2021 (EDT)
