Talk:Don't Let's Start (EP)

Surprisingly enough, I happened across a cassette of this single the other day in Goodwill! Out of curiosity, does anybody know if it has any collecting value? -- Desck

Has anyone noticed the cover symbolizes smoking? He's wasting his money and killing himself, but at least it looks cool.

There's a small error that's crept into the discographies on this site that seems to have come from porting over John Relph's discog. On a lot of the 7" records, the original discog listed a hyphen to show where the side break was, e.g. O Tannenbaum - Christmas Cards ..to mean that O Tannenbaum played on Side A and Christmas Cards on Side B. Unfortunately an assumption's been made on tmbw.net that the hyphen represents the Gloria track ("Untitled") and this has been linked on at least two pages. I've cleaned up this one and will see if I can find the other, and other further ones as well. 80.4.202.8 23:33, 2 June 2009 (UTC)

us promo

does anyone have any proof that the "us promo release" actually exists? the fact that we have no album cover or catalogue number for it, as well as the apparent inclusion of birthday, (of which the first known release was two years later), makes the whole thing seem highly dodgy to me. thoughts? proof? -- 22:29, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

half a year later, no response. last call for objections? -- 19:42, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

this is from the old tmbg.org discography:

12": 1987        US Bar/None ? (promo)
         Side 1: (No Escape.  718 387 6962)
               Don't Let's Start
         Side 2:
               The Famous Polka
               It's Not My Birthday
               We're the Replacements

- Wout 21:26, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

that's where we got our info from, and i see no reason to unconditionally trust that. -- 23:39, 24 February 2010 (UTC)

Clear Vinyl Pressing

Does anyone own the clear vinyl pressing of this EP? I would like to know if it is exactly the same as the original pressing, except that the vinyl is clear instead of black. Does it come in the torquise sleeve with the snowman? Thanks.

i do not own it but i have seen it with mine own eyes... it is indeed the same exact thing, down to the catalogue number. i am not sure about the sleeve, the copy i saw was in a dark green promo sleeve, with no markings whatsoever. -- 20:51, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

next/last EP links

i have myself thought about implementing something like this before... the main reasons that i have not (and i am fairly sure it is among the main reasons that others have not) is that the differences between EPs and singles is often very fuzzy and indistinct, and we often don't have very specific release dates: exact chronology at this point would be nigh impossible to pin down. it's a fine idea, but executing it would be too difficult. that's just my 2¢... i'm sure others have opinions of their own so i should let them speak for themselves i suppose :P -- 16:33, 1 December 2009 (UTC)

uk singles

even though nobody probably cares, the actual single limitations are up to 4 songs and up to 25 minutes. --AGR

Green

Sorry if this is like super obvious but I just got a copy of the Bar/None release today and the cover is green with a purple snowman. Is this normal and, if so, should this be noted on the page somewhere? ~ veggieman 00:38, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

yeah, it's a known variation of the sleeve. i have yet to come up with a plausible explanation for it though. it depends on whether it was -intended- to be different, which i doubt but cannot confirm. -- 00:43, 20 April 2014 (EDT)

Lone Star

On the back image, the outfits the Johns are wearing, and the lack of glasses, match the scene seen in the video footage of Shows/1987-01-28, but the items behind them aren't arranged the same way. The stage seems larger in this image too, I guess. Was this taken at a different venue and the outfits are just a coincidence (perhaps they wore the same clothes for the entire tour)? -- Sonderling (talk) 15:26, 12 January 2015 (EST)

most notably, flans is using an entirely different guitar (in the lone star footage it lacks the THEY and is right-handed), but the outfits and general appearance do suggest that the photo is from around that time. logically, it must anyway, since pink (visible in the lower left) came out late 1986 and this ep came out late 1987. the best bet would be to track down the photographer and ask, but google doesn't return any results for elisa casas that appear to be the person of interest. if someone wanted to do some research, that would be awesome. -- 17:39, 12 January 2015 (EST)

I found her and she just got back to me. She's the one on Twitter. Quoth Elisa:

Yes, I took the photo. It was at CBGB's around 1986.

So there you go. Thanks for giving me the idea to contact her! -- Sonderling (talk) 11:40, 13 January 2015 (EST)

Don't Let's Start memories

I first heard Don't Let's Start in 87/88 (whenever it was released in the UK) when the video was played on a Saturday morning kids show. From the beginning I was transfixed by the complexity of the lyrics, the manic energy of the vocal performance and the frenetic music, all captured in that mad video. Brought up on a diet of 80s "pop"my first impression was how heavy it sounded. The other thing I remember vividly thinking was the band were like the Rolling Stones, which seems absurd now, and quite ironic as I don't think the Giants are really Stones fans. I didn't catch the name of the band and I told myself that I'd catch up with the song when it hit the charts. Of course it didn't chart. Back then I still believed that good songs charted and I was baffled at its disappearance and furious that I hadn't got the name of the band. I hummed the bit of the chorus I remembered for the next couple of years! I wouldn't hear the Giants again until I heard Birdhouse in early 1990. I remember thinking - it's them! when I first saw the video and this time I got the bands name and I gobbled up their earlier releases. They were and always will be my favourite band. I don't often actively listen to Don't let's Start, 30 odd years later, but it remains a classic and in their top 10 songs. Oddly enough the one song from that era, on this EP which I do return to, is When it Rains it Snows. I'm not sure if many people would have it in even their top 50 Giants, songs, the band themselves relegated it to a EP filler and it didn't make the main album but I love it. It makes my Top 10 Giants tunes. I think, for whatever reason it always seems to stay fresh. It's like on Lincoln, Stand on your Head, isn't the best song on the album. I know that, you know that and yet it's the one song that I regularly have on a playlist. I think it's a mixture of the banjo and the sardonic lyrics. (Mr Tuck)