Talk:Titles And Honorifics
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Hmm...shouldn't The Cap'm go here? Any objections? --MisterMe 17:43, 5 January 2013 (EST)
- didn't see this until just now. anyway, i object. in this situation, the term "cap'm", as slang for "captain", is not being used as a title or honourific (e.g. Captain Nemo), but rather a proper noun, or, even, a job description ("they call me 'The Captain'"; "I am the captain"). i suppose it is debatable, but at the very least, we should refine our theme definition. -- 15:56, 9 January 2013 (EST)
- addendum: i see the description at the top says "mentioning, or referencing", which sort of gives it more of a footing to work on, but i still argue that "Cap'm" is being used as a name/occupation rather than a title. additionally, for the same reason, kings of the cave doesn't really belong on the page (unless you count "Mr. John Linnell", which as an incidental bit of stage chatter in the recording, and not actually part of the song, is quite weak), since it too does not use "king" as a title; we wouldn't include it if it was titled "Plumbers Of The Cave", for example. -- 16:03, 9 January 2013 (EST)
- I agree with you on KOTC but must respectfully insist on retaining The Cap'm. It's a title he gives to himself--whether rightly or not, heh heh--and dares people to call him otherwise. That's the whole basis of the song ("Look me over, I'm the Cap'm"--and then he describes how he comes to that conclusion) and why I included it in "Central theme". But perhaps the page's description could use a li'l tweaking. (P.S.--it occurred to me that Mario does, in fact, conquer several caves in almost every game he's in, so he could be a Plumber King of the Cave. :-D) --MisterMe 16:54, 9 January 2013 (EST)
- I'm going to agree with MisterMe on this one. I think the way the lyrics are written and sung, it qualifies as a type of honorific. --CJSF 17:07, 9 January 2013 (EST)