Interpretations:Spider
- Song
- Lyrics
- Interpretations
- Credits
- Guitar Tab
- Bass Tab
- Chronology
Contents
- 1 Kung fu movie
- 2 Feelings toward spiders
- 3 Joke track
- 4 Spiderman
- 5 Interpretation 5
- 6 Spy
- 7 Interpretation 7
- 8 Goodfellas
- 9 Controversy of heroes
- 10 Interpretation 10
- 11 Mothra
- 12 Interpretation 12
- 13 Interpretation 13
- 14 Arachnophobia
- 15 Combination
- 16 The Pulp fiction vigilante The Spider
- 17 Nazis
- 18 Awesome Spider
- 19 Johnny Socko and his Giant Robot - Japanese Kaiju
Kung fu movie
I think the point of this song was to give the impression that they`d pulled all these quotes from some badly dubbed kung fu movie and used them for their song[``I promise not to kill you`` reinforces this notion most for me]. Spider would of course, be the protagonist and the alternating ``He is our hero`` and ``Step on Spider`` would represent his allies and enemies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.61.38.213 (talk) 16:41, March 14, 2004
- I find that many of the lines (especially "Step on spidaa!!") remind me a whole lot of Japanese cartoons. Apollo 18 was '92 - before I remember Japanese cartoons being really big in the US - but maybe there's a slight chance this was Japanese cartoon-influenced? -- Rhinoceros Rex 21:17, June 24, 2004
I have a similar take on this song. To me it’s meant to harken up memories of Japanese superheroes like Ultraman and maybe even the Godzilla franchise.
Feelings toward spiders
I think this song is about the ambivalent feelings people have toward spiders. They're "our hero" because they eat insects, but people also find them disgusting, and want to "step on" and "get rid of" them. The fact that a lot of people think of Spider-Man and badly dubbed foreign movies might well have also been intentional on TMBG's part, though. --Vovat 22:10, June 11, 2004
- It's about the conflicting views that people have about spiders. I have a friend who won't kill any spider if it comes in his house. The song entertains two schools of thought. One side says "He is our hero" and we love you spider" the other says "Step on spider" "Get Rid of" and "Must STOP!!" on one hand they're helpful because they eat bugs, but they also bite. The noble spider is finally given a chance to speak in his defense in this song a la "I promise not to kill you" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.200.116.70 (talk) 02:16, July 10, 2005
- I had the exact same thought the first time I listened to this song. I absolutely adore the imagery of a clueless little spider being treated like a action movie hero/villain. Awog (talk) 23:15, 1 February 2024 (EST)
Joke track
A very weak joke track. (mr Tuck) 11:53, July 17, 2004
Spiderman
Am I alone in thinking that this song could possibly be about Spiderman? -The Cowch 00:23, March 14, 2005
- I also believe this to be about Spiderman. If it means anything, in the booklet for A User's Guide to They Might Be Giants, they have a timeline with events relating to the songs on that album. One of the timeline events is "Stan Lee first draws Spiderman." Mmmyep. --Weston 15:47, May 26, 2005
- I thought it was Spiderman too.--Futuramaooy 06:43, 25 Jun 2005 (EDT)
Interpretation 5
I heard secondhand this came out of an incident of Them finding a spider in the studio and trying to decide what to do with it. Does anybody have a real reference for this? I definitely hear Rhino Rex's movie line idea in there, but I for some reason I thought this was about a real spider.
It really captures the whole absurdist TMBG gestalt. The first album I heard was Severe Tire Damage, and when I got to Spider, I laughed myself breathless, played it several times. -- Christina Miller 10:42, May 17, 2005
- Just another example of TMBG just foolin' around and being silly. ~Anna Ng hears your words. 18:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
Spy
I always thought that it was about a spy. Kinda like a 007 type character, who is being discussed by both the "good guys" and the "bad guys." I've thought about this since the first time I heard the song! --ArAn 02:50, 23 Jan 2006 (EST)
Interpretation 7
I think this song is just some classic TMBG jammin.' You know, just making up random stuff as they go along. Or, perhaps if you replace the word 'spider' with 'grapefruit', you unlock the true meaning of the song:
Ladies and gentlemen
Ladies and gentlemen
Coopidy coop coop cadoo
Coopidy coop coop cadoo
Coopidy coop coop cadoo
Coopidy coop coop cadoo
Grapefruit
He is our hero
Grapefruit
Get rid of
Grapefruit
Step on grapefruit
Grapefruit
We love you grapefruit
I promise not to kill you
Grapefruit
Grapefruit
We love you grapefruit
Grapefruit
Get rid of
Grapefruit
Must stop
Grapefruit
He is our hero
- (Turnip) 23:21, January 26, 2006
Goodfellas
I never thought the song was about this, but it always makes me think of the Spider character from Goodfellas --(Bishma) 19:13, January 27, 2006
Controversy of heroes
I find this to be about the controversy of heroes. Some find them to be heroic, great, some dislike them. We did a whole, about 2 month unit on heroes and we had this discussion. I truely believe this song is about the controversy of heroes and heroic deeds. The end! =) --Lemita 18:42, 5 May 2006 (CDT)
Interpretation 10
I always thought that this song was just the noises a spider hears walking by, and how people go insane over it (I promised not to kill you...), but also worship it (he is our hero!). People get scared of spider, go crazy over spider, and try to kill spider, but he just walks by, totally unaware, and probably thinking "What's wrong with these guys???". The Joe (Talk) 23:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
Mothra
This song really reminds me of Mothra for some reason. Hell, most of the lines in this song sound like they were ripped off of some badly-dubbed japanese movie, and those "UUUUUAAAAaaagggghh"s sound like a bad imitation of Godzilla's roars. Then again, if the Johns really intended this to be about Mothra, they'd probably just use "Mothra" instead of Spider". --ZippZapp 01:23, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
Interpretation 12
All right, I know for a fact that this is just the Johns messing around with their instruments, but here is what I always think about when listening to the song:
Ladies and Gentlemen!; The song takes place at a sideshow act, with the (giant) spider in a cage being the main attraction.
Coopidy coop coop cadoo: Just the Johns being silly.
He is our hero!: People are rallying for the spiders freedom.
Get rid of: Our protagonist, who I always picture as a guy in a trench coat but you can imagine as anyone you want, is trying to get to the spider in time to stop it from being released.
Step on Spider!: Different people, fearing for their safety but not really understanding the spider's power, want it out of the sideshow.
We love you spider: Same, rallying people.
I promise not to kill you: The spider is tempting the rallying people to let him go.
Must Stop: Trench coat guy again.
He is our hero: Rallying people.
The story ends on a cliffhanger, so we have no idea whether the spider was released, destroyed, or what. So, that's my take on it. Kinda dumb, I know. -NC 16:42, July 27, 2008
Interpretation 13
This song reminds me of Warren Ellis's 97-02 comic book series Transmetropolitan, or at the very least his irascible protagonist, outlaw Spider Jerusalem. Spider is described as a dirty bastard by almost every other character in the book, but he's also used as a source of much dark humor and tongue-in-cheek commentary on just about anything and everything. He has three different character modes: Normal Spider: A very angry or just plain world-weary loner; Angry Bastard Spider: A ruthless and brain-smashing journalist who will stop at nothing to expose the Truth (whatever it may be); and Magical Truthsaying Bastard Spider, who acts and talks like some kind of enraged god on a drug-induced rampage. It's this last one that makes the most impact on readers and what I think lends to the Jerusalem-tinged feel I hear in the song:
Ladies and gentlemen Ladies and gentlemen (An unwanted anouncement; Spider prefers to be left alone)
Coopidy coop coop cadoo (Spider goes out "monstering", i.e. looking for victims of his column)
He is our hero
(his loving public)
Get rid of Spider (The Smiler, American President and main antagonist of the series)
Step on spider (Any number of thugs whom Spider vanquishes with a single blast from his Bowel Disruptor)
We love you spider (His "filthy assistants" Channon and Yelena: They can't stand him, but they can't live without him, either.)
I promise not to kill you (Spider, the old dirty bastard lying through his teeth--if he really wanted to, they'd already be dead.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.34.105.141 (talk) 18:14, February 18, 2009
Arachnophobia
Maybe John Linnell has arachniphobia and descided to write a song about how he wants to kill a spider on his living room wall.... And Flans was bored so he messed around with the instruments while linnell was ranting at the spider.. User:Nerdy4ever95 18:04, July 15, 2009
Combination
What if it's a song about a Japanese action movie/cartoon about mankind's relationship with spiders? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Guacamole37 (talk • contribs) 01:43, March 12, 2010
The Pulp fiction vigilante The Spider
I just recently got into a comic series based on an old pulp vigilante called The Spider, similar to The shadow. Originally created in a novel series in 1933 to compete with The shadow's own novel series. They made movie serials in 1938 and 1941, the quotes in the song seem to me to fit the style of these time period pulp vigilantes. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.190.255 (talk) 22:03, May 28, 2012
Nazis
To me the song is about the Hitler/Nazi takeover of Europe:
- Note it's pronounced "Schpider" in what sounds like a German accent.
- The drum beat could be aligned with marching to battle
- People say they love Spider (The Germans)
- A man says they must step on Spider (The Allies).
- Guy in French sounding nasal tone keeps saying "Urrrrrrrrrrrr!" as if acknowledging a huge screwup.
- Boooom..... (bombs)
- Spider sounding like Dracula says he promises not to kill you. (Yeah right, some promise, bloodsucker.)
- More marching to battle drums. Weird 40s sounding music.
- More loving Spider
- Now Allies say "GET RID OF, MUST STOP"!
- A long French sounding "Urrrrrrr..." again.
- Then BOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMM the destruction of France.
Spider = Nazis {{subst:unsignedIP|76.79.144.70|21:16, July 19, 2016||
- It may be about world war 2, I could see that, but almost certainly from Asia and Japan's perspective. Not Europe. And all of the voices remind me of Asian movie dubs, not French or German people. The irony is in the explosion sound, which could reference atomic bombs,and the lyrics point out that Japan may have joined the side of the Germans, but didn't really like them. Also notice the bomb sound happens twice. The enemy of my enemy is my friend. But further, the SS logo may be spider like. I'm not going to write a dissertation on this as it is inappropriate here, but the Nazi thing seems reasonable in some ways. ~~ random anonymous guy
Awesome Spider
This is just them playing around with different phrases & sounds.... not sure why they chose 'spider' in particular, but could be that the lyrics: 'He is our hero, we love you, spider, step on spider, I promise not to kill you', etc. could be the different feelings people have about actual spiders. (how he could be your hero? that's anybody's guess). It's kind of like the Beatles "song" Revolution 9, just a bunch of sounds, phases & gibberish. I think Spider is so awesomely silly genius!!
Johnny Socko and his Giant Robot - Japanese Kaiju
"Spider" was a bad-guy general in the Japanese live-action sci-fi series Giant Robo, also known as Johnny Sokko and His Flying Robot that began airing in 1967. Some brilliant person knew that the best way to import it for the pre-teen western audience was just to compile a bunch of alien monsters vs. Giant Robot fight scenes from multiple episodes, dub it into English, and put it out as a made-for-TV movie. I was around 12 when I first saw it, and it was beyond thrilling to me.
The TMBG song of the same name was clearly riffing off of the awkward translations and phrasing in the English voice-overs of the series/film. They approached it from both the perspective of his fellow beatnik-Nazi cronies in The Gargoyle Gang, [1]
"We love you, Spider" and "He is our hero" as well as that of his good-guy Unicorn Agent enemies "Step on spider!", "Must... stop!). The perfectly ham-handed faux quote of "I promise not to kill you" is reminiscent of the scene when Spider gasses Johnny, saying "I want you to sleep a while".
The song salutes the sinister character and expresses a deep affection for Japanese Kaiju (giant monster) films that TMBG likely enjoyed when they were growing up.
As for the tango/samba bridge in the middle of their song, I imagine that was just them doing the bizarro stuff we all know and love from them.