Category talk:Lyrics

Lyrics Standards

I'd like to standardize on a .css (cascading style sheet) for how we display lyrics on this site. Currently the lyrics pages all look vastly different, depending on who is adding them. Some people use "pre" tags, and some use "br" tags, etc...

If people want to collaborate to come up with a standardized way to display them, I can use ThisMightBeABot to strip the tags out of the current lyrics pages, and reformat them to the new standard. --Duke33 11:55, 6 May 2005 (EDT)

The problem with the "pre" tags is that they don't have width restrictions. It just goes horizontal forever. -Ecks

Well, if anyone has good html skills, and wants to recommend a custom .css for our lyrics, i can use the bot to reformat all the existing pages. Someone want to step up to the plate?? --Duke33 16:44, 6 Dec 2005 (EST)

Yeah, I can do CSS. I'll tackle it by at least this weekend. -Ecks

Oh, by the by, any things you want specifically? -Ecks

Nah...just as long as it looks pretty! :) --Duke33 16:59, 9 Dec 2005 (EST)

Ah, this is baffling. I'm trying to use CSS to set the width of the PRE tags... but when I do it in HTML, it works, but CSS screws it up... It's crazy. really. When I do the width in HTML, it makes it so the text is contrained to the width, but in CSS, it completely ignores it. I think I might have to just completely tear it out and start from scratch. Make something else. -Ecks

"The" songs shouldn't be in "T"

Any complaints if I rearrange the song listings (at some point, when I have time) so that songs starting with "The" are not listed in "T"? Just about every sorting system ever ignores initial articles such as "the" and "a". You don't find The Beatles under "T" in a music shop, do you? Also, there seems to be all kinds of noise in the "L" section. I'm happy to work on this, but it'll have to be later (buying a house).

Sounds good to me. Let me know if you need pointers on how to do that. (Also, as far as the "L" section goes, if you just open up those pages and resave them, they should fix themselves to be under the correct letter.) --Duke33 09:38, 9 Sep 2005 (EDT)

Heard these lyrics?

I was listening to the clock radio, and I heard a song I really liked, but I'm not quite sure what it was called. The first line went like this: "I'm not dead till I die." Does anyone no what song this is from? Id really like to know.

On The Drag? "I won't die until I'm dead..." -Ecks

Do a search for them... just make sure you get the lyrics right.

Can't find (She Was A) Hotel Detective?

(She_Was_A)_Hotel_Detective The page certainly exists, with lyrics, interpretations, etc. However, the link to its lyrics doesn't show up on the lyrics page above (She Was A) Hotel Detective In The Future, which by all means it should, I think. Not being very wiki-experienced, I wouldn't know how to fix it. Could someone else, if possible? Or is this supposed to be this way? -- Shellbelle (3/17/06)

Just fixed it by removing the footer from that lyrics page, and then putting it back on. Thanks for pointing this out. By the way, seeing as how you typed out the date after your name, I'm guessing you don't know the proper way to place a signature. All you have to do is click the little button up there while editing a page, and it'll put your name and date in place when the page is saved. :D -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 18:32, 17 Mar 2006 (CST)

Ah, I see. Ugh, I feel kinda stupid now. Thanks! :D --Shellbelle 18:05, 18 Mar 2006 (CST)

Notes on the lyrics pages

On pages like Lyrics:Boat Of Car with little blurbs off aside from the actual lyrics, where should those notes go? To me, it seems like only the words to a song should go inside that <pre> box, and then I'm not sure where those annotations would go (i.e., above or below the lyrics). And then there's little changes in lyrics (also in the Boat of Car lyrics) and the question of whether they should go under or inside the box thing. However it should be, I think we should have a set way so it doesn't vary from song to song. --Magbatz 21:23, 2 Apr 2006 (CDT)

I remember suggesting somewhere else that we put them under a horizontal bar, but that formats the text after it to be wikified and alters the spacing between lines, among other things. I suppose something similar like "---" could be used (making note to not create a <hr>). Any other suggestions? --badqueso 21:58, 2 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Err... I don't really follow what you said (about the wikification and the <hr>). --magbatz 23:01, 2 Apr 2006 (CDT)

Sorry, I should have been more clear. For some reason, when you put in a horizontal rule (whether you use "<hr>" or "----"), the formatting of the text that follows follows wiki guidelines. Look at this iteration of Lyrics:Boat Of Car. Note how the asterisk (*) is shown as a bullet and how the space between lines is different from the other text? Now look at this iteration. Note that the text appears as it should, but you don't get the full effect of the line across. But of course, other ideas are greatly welcome because this one seems to be sufficiently lacking. --badqueso 00:19, 3 Apr 2006 (CDT)

I just had the genius idea of using a <nowiki> tag. Give me a break, it's late. --badqueso 00:38, 3 Apr 2006 (CDT)

dash

why is there a dash?--71.220.206.127 23:56, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

Alternate Versions, Same Lyrics

I really have no opinion one way or the other, but I figure the question should be asked. For consistency's sake, what should the standard be when there is an alternate or live version of a song that has the exact same set of lyrics as the normal version? [Example-- Lyrics:Particle Man and Lyrics:Particle Man (Live At Mountain Stage) are the exact same thing. Should the latter exist?] If yes, then that probably means we should go ahead and fill in the duplicate lyrics pages for other alternate versions that have the same set of lyrics. If no, then does that mean we should delete those pages, make it a redirect, or just leave the ones that are there? Whatever is best really does not interest me at all, and I have no preference of which route to take or even if it's worth our time, but it can't be bad to at least have some kind of standard or stance. ~ magbatz 19:30, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Written v. Released

I notice that we have the lyrics labelled with a "Written" year, but should we instead have it say "Released"? I ask because for the Nanobots related songs, we have 2013 as when they were written, when surely at least some were written in 2012 (or earlier). I'm sure the same it true for a lot of the other songs. Since we might never really know when a song's lyrics were written, wouldn't it make more sense to just label when the song was initially released? Or should we leave well enough alone? -- CJSF 09:58, 25 February 2013 (EST)