Talk:Podcast 26A

Repeat songs

Flying V and Fun Assassin again? That's a little odd. --Wetreplies 01:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

I know. I was listening to this on my iTunes and I thought it skipped back to 24 for a minute. I guess it's better than a two minute podcast, but reusing stuff like that? Stuff that's been out for years?

Meh. I'm just looking for trouble now.--Gendreavus 24:43, 10 June 2007 (PST)

It's not so much that they reused old material, but that they put the same two songs together within the time frame of two podcasts that struck me. I guess there's just something about the combination of the two songs that they seemed to like. Or maybe they did it on purpose to confuse everybody. I suppose it's better than putting "Turtle Songs of North America" up again, though. :) --Ms Fernandez

Transformers?

Haha what? They talked about a decepticons! There not THAT old, but they are def too old to know about Transformers. When I was there age when the Transformers were out (circa 25 yrs. old; that is 1992 for me) I had no knowledge of Tinny Tunes, Animanacs, Darkwing Duck, you name it. and I still have never heard of them, so what the heck? Is it by accident that they said Decepticons, or is it on purpose? By the way I used to be in a band called Trance Farmers. It was a play on words. ~Neill

Uh... what? I don't understand the point you're trying to make. How do you know about things you've never heard of? And what does being 25 have to do with this? Because the Johns were older than that in 1992. And now. So where does that come in?

Well J+J would have been 25 or so when Transformers was out. And I don't know anything about those cartunes except Tiny Tunes since it was on the Brooklyn Direct DVD. I said 1992 b/c that is when those shows I mentioned were big. I was using the example of a 25 year old knows nothing about tv cartunes outside of his age group.

For what it's worth, Flans has made a Transformers reference previously. One of the live recordings of Fingertips features the line "I'm a Transformer for your love baby/Optimus Prime/Two arms and four wheels to roll you." Awesome.

I don't think it's that crazy that somebody would know about a cartoon before/after their "time". I know people who are 50 and watch Spongebob Squarepants, there isn't exactly an age limit where you have to stop watching cartoons. Expectially when it has been emerged into popular culture, you don't even have to see the show to be able to quote from it. I don;t think I've ever seen transformer and I know what a decepticon is.

Now see i think that is a different thing tho' it may only be my opinion. I think the writers of Spongbobe are attacking 2 markets: the kids and the post-college stoners. Your 50 yr. friends may not be stoners but they are still prolly caught in the runoff of the adult writing. When do they watch? If they watch during the day its probably because there is no good news programs during the day. daytime TV is a wasteland and there is nothing on it. Only Spongbobe and Mr. Rogers reruns. Yech!

Mr. Rogers is great fun, a kitchy weird thing, first off. In my opinion. Secondly, no offense to Neill, but given the prevalence of TV, DVD, and internet sharing of old entertainment, including cartoons, people of any age with access to those media can have knowledge of shows produced outside their lifetimes. On Saturdays in my area, the public radio station plays radio shows from the 30's, 40's and 50's. I can listen to the Lone Ranger radio show, for instance, or Fibber n Molly.

Also, Flans would have had to be deaf and blind to miss the Transformer craze. Kids screamed for the toys, social commentators decried the obvious designing of the cartoon to be an ad for a toy. It was ground-breaking in its day, because before that, maybe a toy came first, or it was produced in response to the popularity of the television show or movie. Transformers was the first big Saturday morning cartoon which was engineered solely to induce kids to get their parents to buy particular toys. Trust me please that Flansburgh was aware of them, unless you want to propose he was living under a rock in the Artic at the time. ~Christina Miller, June 2007

With all due respect, a person who was in command of their eyes and ears would probably not know of Transformers or other things like that if they were a shut-in or incapacitated. Also a prisoner would not have access to that kind of information.

Jails have televisions and magazines, and the bed-ridden and house-bound are allowed TVs and magazines, I assume, and perhaps, even internet access. I am not sure what your point is here, though. ~Christina

I'm not sure I see the point in this either. Now, really I have no idea what Transformers are, something involving robots or whatever, so yes, I agree that shut-ins would not have access to pop-culture knowledge. BUT... the Johns are not shut-ins, prisoners, or Arctic under-rock-livers, so they probably do know what Tranformers is (especially having referenced it). Akagi 16:49, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Well I will now concede the argument since no one will just settle down and admit that I am right.~Neill

I hate to dig up old dirt, since you did concede and all, but I think it's less that people will "admit" you're right and more that you can't see how you can possibly be wrong. You were saying that, since you had never heard of cartoons that were popular in 1992/when you were 25, it isn't likely that Flansburgh would know anything about cartoons that were popular when he was 25 in the 1980s. Everyone else is pointing out the flaws in your argument, the first of which being that there is no absolute point at which a person becomes "too old" to understand/take interest in a particular subject. People are not designed that way; we're a lot more dynamic than that. Five and thirty-five year olds alike will read Harry Potter books. I know more people 18-21 who collect Pokemon than I do little children. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility that, despite his "advanced" age, Flansburgh could have liked watching Transformers. If you had never heard of Animaniacs or other shows that were popular when you were 25, that's fine, but it doesn't make any sense to assume that your singular experience can be applied to anyone else's or to an entire population of people. It doesn't mean that you're wrong, but you have to admit that it's very unlikely.

Additionally, as Christina points out, Transformers was a huge craze in its time. As was Cabbage Patch Kids, then Furby, then Tickle Me Elmo, then Pokemon... We've all heard of those things, even if we couldn't care less about them, because they were everywhere [I'm being US-centric here; I've no idea if this is true in other places]. If you didn't have a tv, people would still talk about them, and articles would appear in newspapers and magazines, even reputable magazines like Time. I have no idea how a person could not have heard of a huge craze like Transformers, unless, as Christina says, they were recluses. As a 25 year old today, I can tell you what Spongebob looks like and that he lives in an underwater pineapple, even though I haven't seen a single episode. I know that Dora the Explorer is a young Latina girl who is the protagonist of a bilingual interactive kids' show, and I have never seen that program, either. Now, I know I just said that anecdotes shouldn't be used to generalize an entire population's experience, but it is entirely possible that someone who is 25 to know about popular shows that aren't geared for that age group. I am not convinced that Mr. Flansburgh could have been walking around New York at a time when Transformers was huge and not pick up a couple of pieces of information at very least. He could have! I just think it's incredibly unlikely. -Ms F

OH, HIG. Somebody is obviously PMSing and off her birth control pills today. Sign it, seal it, deliver it, I'm your babay, because I CAN'T UNDERSTAND A FREAKING WORD YOU ARE FREAKING SAYING. Lalalalalala. Learn to argue like an adult and come back hear. I just will not accept your response until you can be a mature person about this.--WhatTheHeckLinnell 14:57, 23 August 2009 (UTC)