Lyrics Talk:Santa Cruz

Looking through the history, there seems to be more than a little disagreement about whether it's "fuck" or "funk". I really hear "funk", but do we have any concrete proof for either one, or is it just our strained ears? — User:ACupOfCoffee@ 06:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

It sounds to me like they're definitely saying "funk". ~Anna Ng hears your words. 08:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you really hear an 'n' in this? - Flansy.wav. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 12:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Heh. That was fun to listen to. And no. ~ magbatz 16:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Is that cut from the song, or just some other file? While I don't hear an "n" in there, it DEFINITELY sounds like "funk" to me in the song, and "art-funk" makes more sense to me than "art-fuck". ~Anna Ng hears your words. 02:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Taken directly from the intro to Santa Cruz. -CapitalQ ♫ talk ♪ 02:40, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

Listening to it again, I can see that yes, he is indeed saying "fuck". ~Anna Ng hears your words. 05:56, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

This reminds me way too much of the confusion over what Jamie Kitman said in Gigantic...

scaggsaway

I hear "fuck" too, but it just doesn't make sense. As a term or that Flansburgh would say it.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=artfuck Makes sense to me. Plus the boys swear loads. They're a TERRIBLE influence on our young'uns! Subverting the authoritative control of bad parents! They Might Be Terrorists! :O --Luke 03:14, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

I also think Linnell says "John wanted me to explain this" in the beginning, not "John, why don't we explain this."

"or that Flansburgh would say it"? You don't know him very well, do you? :p But no, I gave the "John, why don't we explain this" a few listens, and I heard it both ways. It'd probably help to use an audio editing program and slow it down. I might try that later. Akagi 16:18, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

"artfuck background"

I certainly hear Artfuck. I take this to mean that this piece is in line with their tendency to not be swayed by expectations or convention. Like putting music on an answering machine or performing with a tape recorder. (I disagree with the modernist idea that art is found everywhere, but indeed as TMBG prove, Art can come from anywhere. (Yes, like the end of Ratatouille.))

The urban dictionary definition of "Artfuck" does not cover this and I guess I could add a definition relating it to this deconstructive or degenerate art-making vantage. Really, I think if anyone uses the term as a genre-adjective-label I think the meaning is clear. They certainly seem to be using it in this way given the context.