Talk:Withered Hope

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Man, I love this song so much. Apfelbitsliam, do you really this this song is worth one star, or was that your desire to bring its average down? And four unregistered voters? Su-spi-ciousssssss! —Gena 01:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

This is easily one of my top three favorite songs on the new album. I feel a bit guilty liking it so much because it sounds like it might be a little more Dust Bros. than TMBG! Oh well...still a TMBG classic in my book. --Wetreplies 01:51, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

No reason to feel guilty--it's one of my favorite TMBG songs, period. ~Anna Ng hears your words. 03:41, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

I don't like it much either. It's my least favorite song on the new album.. -raceofdoom

wow, i can't believe this is ranked #9 overall on the big song board right now. i guess my tastemeter is broken or something, cause it's my least favorite on the album, too... --Ehsteve14 02:11, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

What are the words in the sample repeated throughout the song? I haven't been able to decipher them yet.--Kenr 02:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Sounds likes "Y'all break it down" to me, but probably not. Akagi 03:19, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
I think it's "Y'all wanna get down?!"--tehbagel ( o ) 11:21, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
I was kind of wondering if it might be "Sad Sack got to get down" .... ? --Kenr 02:02, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Now that you mention it, at 0:33 and 1:49, it definitely begins with two syllables that could be "Sad Sack." Can anyone confirm or deny? Rucksack Jack 01:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Okay, okay - after a few more listenings I NOW believe that there are two versions of the sample. One says "Sad Sack got to get down!" and the other leaves a rest on the first two beats and says "Y'all got to get down!" What say? --Kenr 00:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
I hear "Y'all break it down" and "Sad Sack breakin' it down." But I haven't listened recently. Mucket 02:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

In this CD booklet, this song listed as written by Simpson and King as well as TMbG. This raises a couple of questions: 1)Why do the Dust Brothers get writing credit for this one but not for Upside Down Frown? 2) Why are the Dust Brothers listed by their actual names here when they're listed as "The Dust Bros." on their production credits and TMbG is listed by their band name on the writing credits? I'm sure it's some sort of complicated legal/copyright issue, but what is it? Tutt 15:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

I think (not having heard either of the songs, as I'm still waiting for my CD to be shipped here) that the DB actually helped (or participated in) writing this song rather than just creating the audiobackground. - Whirrrlwind (Woosh!) 18:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

In the version of this song that appears on Podcast 28C, Linnell flubs up the "soulmate" line, instead saying: "Withered Hope says she has a friend *mumble* living in a city in another state". -- Ms Fernandez


In concert, Linnell almost always changes the lyrics from "the picture of the crook in the book" to "the picture in the book of the crook," and "the motorbike doesn't like crooks, it's obsessed with the Very Sad Sack" to "it's in love with the Very Sad Sack." Is this relevant enough to warrant a bullet point on the song's page? bowser724 00:37, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


So is there any actual evidence that "Sad Sack" is an Elvis ref? I mean, it is an actual expression...--Self Called Nowhere 10:07, 26 February 2010 (UTC)