Talk:Mirrors And Reflections

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Is this really a needed theme page? While The Johns' use of reflection imagery is interesting, I don't think it warrants a theme page, considering there are only "briefly mentioned" instances and not even that many of those. --Self Called Nowhere 04:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

I promoted She's Actual Size to a central theme. Sorry, I'm new to this... Is 15 songs not enough to support a theme? Doesn't seem any less significant than, say, Parties or Freaks. --Octoflange 04:34, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
i think quinn has got this covered, but i want to add. honestly, i think parties is pretty weak, and, unlike mirrors/reflection, freaks are a bit less commonly-used throughout songwriting. idk. just my own 2¢. -- 04:38, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Just to weigh in, it seems like most of these are just mentions in passing. It's not really notable: they aren't using the idea of reflection to enhance the lyric/song (at least in most cases), it's just, you know, a basic thing with no interesting connotative meaning, unlike, say, "freaks". -Apollo (Phoebus!) 05:19, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Personally I like it. Mirrors are cool, and reflection is an interesting tool in songs. It's valuable to group together the mirror stuff in, say, No One Knows My Plan and in Till My Head Falls Off. And just speaking in terms of visual imagery, the line in World's Address is one of the best. It's less interesting with the mentioning of objects (SC), and I think it could be more useful to confine the theme to a certain kind of literal reflection (while it uses the idea of reflection right, "a sadder pun that reflects a sadder mess", I dunno, just doesn't really seem noteworthy to me), but still. ~ magbatz 05:23, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Even when mirrors/reflections are just mentioned in passing, I think the imagery often gets at a recurring TMBG head-scratcher: What do we see when we look in the mirror? (An audience of one? A tiny dancin' skeleton? An evil twin? Someone who won't talk to us at all? Or is no one there?) Combine that with observations on how mirrors betray us (they won't show us with our eyes closed, objects appear larger than actual size), and it feels theme-y to me. --Octoflange 05:55, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
Actually, reconsidering a lot of the things listed here, I would agree that a number of the uses of mirrors/reflections do bring interesting ideas to songs. I'm going to stay neutral on this one. -Apollo (Phoebus!) 20:36, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
This is a good theme. I think that this page in no way is bad. I strongly vote for keeping this theme and I disagree with all of you who think this page is pointless. :) -- Buzzmusic100 ("Keep your voice down...")
I agree. There's a lot of symbolism in mirrors and reflections, and it is a rather strong theme in Their work. I also vote to keep this. --Lemita 00:10, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
Me too. Keep: 5. Remove: 2. Neutral: 1 --$¥Šтəмд†↓к є┌╓☼╔ (talk) 00:15, 1 December 2010 (UTC)