Lyrics Talk:Canajoharie
Bleh, sorry. It occurred to me after I made the edit that I hadn't listened to today's show, which was probably way more clear. That was dumb. -Lekker 03:56, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
I made an edit to the page. I clearly hear "skipper drug itself away". As for the rest, it is just a guess but I figured it might help out. I don't know. --Propman 20:57, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry, but no. That doesn't make any sense and it's not proper grammar. It would be "dragged" not drug if that were the case. And that is out of context with the rest of the lyrics. I do hear something that sounds like "skip" though. I'm pretty sure he says "feeling" before "all my old friends are gone" but I can't be sure, plus there is another word in there I can't make out. I originally thought "fin" for the word after "reconstructed" too but it ends in an "ay" sound, rather than a harsher "n." Plus that would make it rhyme with "in" and none of the other stanzas have that rhyming pattern. --BlueCanary 21:52, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hey...Could it be "reconstructed fake"?--Propman 22:32, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
- Maybe. That's more promising than some of the other possibilities I've come up with. I'm not sure I hear a "k" sound but the word is not enunciated at all so it's really hard to say. (P.S. I didn't mean to be harsh. I was really just talking out my reasoning aloud. It seemed rude to drop your changes and not explain why I thought they didn't sound right. The internet is so bad at conveying tone.) --BlueCanary 01:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, kudos to whoever got "plaque"-- was listening to that over and over again and getting nowhere. With a couple other lines:
- I've been thinking it's "I get the crazy feeling all my old friends are gone"
- ith "drag yourself away", I've heard something with a "skiff". It makes sense with getting yourself out of Canajoharie and relates with a rocket ship doing the same in the next line, but I'm not that convinced. I've also heard Baron von Steuben so......
- Equally straw-grasping, it's possible the word after that lalafa thing before "drag yourself away" is "blizzard". An ice age/swamp thaw thing fits the context, whatever the hell the line could be.
- I hear "fake" too. In the better recording I swear I can make out a "k" pop sound.
- I suspect it's "swap" the proof, not "spark".
- "Close your eyes, see what I see?" is the line, but I really don't think it's a question. Also, it's probably my favorite line.
- I also put all the instances of some of the unknown lines one after another for comparing, if anyone's interested. ~ magbatz 10:24, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- YES, someone agrees with me on "swap!" I was gonna mention that, sounds that way for me and figuring out the new topic it makes more sense. --Self Called Nowhere 10:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- Hey, kudos to whoever got "plaque"-- was listening to that over and over again and getting nowhere. With a couple other lines:
- Maybe. That's more promising than some of the other possibilities I've come up with. I'm not sure I hear a "k" sound but the word is not enunciated at all so it's really hard to say. (P.S. I didn't mean to be harsh. I was really just talking out my reasoning aloud. It seemed rude to drop your changes and not explain why I thought they didn't sound right. The internet is so bad at conveying tone.) --BlueCanary 01:48, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- I also agree with swamp. It sounds right to me. Spark never did. I knnow this is completely wrong but I hear "where I fought flipper...(?)...(earring?)...slipper drug itself away." I know that drug is not used correctly but it sounds very close to me and some people use it in that context. Nobody said you have to be a grammer teacher to write songs. I also hear, "I get the fading feeling all my old friends are gone." I don't know why he would say fading, but that's what it sounds like to my ears. Can I get an amen?! --Propman 21:15, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
- "Plaque" was me :-) It was a serious "Ah Ha" moment for me. I think we are agreed on "fake." I could go either way on "swap" or "spark" but I agree that "swapped" makes more sense. The word actually sounds different in the two videos to me. He definitely changed a few minor words between the two performances (pull vs drag, etc) so it is possible on any of this that the words we are having so much trouble with are not actually the same in both vids. I would totally agree with "crazy feeling all my old friends are gone" from Mohegan but it does sound more like "fading" or "failing" in DC.
- I don't think "blizzard" is crazy at all. I can hear that now that you say it. Maybe "Where a (?) blizzard (?) all night and day." I'm more and more sure of "all night and day" each time I listen. I'm thinking the word before "blizzard" might be "fog" or "foggy?" I also keep hearing either "during" or "enduring" in the next line. And something with "skip." There is a sound after it so I can see where you got "skipper" from but I'm thinking it's two words run together like "skip or" maybe. And finally, you are absolutely right about "see what I see" not being a question. It's more of a command. Does that help anyone? --BlueCanary 06:09, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- Yeah, I've been hearing "enduring" as well. The "bluh-uh" doesn't sound like anything in the first recording, or even in the first chorus of the better chorus, but "blizzard" sounds "very" enunciated in the second chorus of that. Hooray, progress. Also, maybe crazy/fading is "raving" (or even "craven") in the DC recording?? ~ magbatz 06:22, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
- I do believe it has something to do with a mudskipper. --Propman 04:02, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
I just watched the webcast video again, I'm hearing "a historical plaque," not "some historical plaque." Your thoughts? --Lemita 02:26, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
- I changed that from "a" on impulse. Go ahead. ~ magbatz 03:23, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
I FOUND ANOTHER PUZZLE PIECE. The "drag away" part is SKIFF. I have been hearing it all this time as "drag yourself away" which I guess everyone else has too but I'm pretty sure it's actually "drag itself away" which, you know, makes sense, haha. I'm only like 99% sure on the your/itself but I am POSITIVE about skiff. OH MAN THIS IS SO FUN. --Self Called Nowhere 07:41, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
- I'm sorry to disagree but I don't think your assumption is correct. "It's self" fits but I don't think skiff is the word. If you watch the video on the second chorus he is pronouncing a "P" sound, not an "F" sound. (I believe the word to be mudskipper as I mentioned before) it's just too much of a stretch to my ears to accept most of your edit. I'm sorry. (By the way, please don't take this message as harsh. I'm not trying to be at all.) --Propman 15:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know. Skiff really seems to make sense in context and I have NO idea how mudskipper could make ANY. --Self Called Nowhere 02:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- In the context of my interpritation of the song, skiff doesn't really make sense. Besides, there is really no context for either of our guesses because the rest of the sentence (which would be the context) is still a mystery. --Propman 21:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- I don't agree at all with your interpretation, though, and you even admit that you "don't know why" you made it. And while it's true that we're not clear on the rest of the line yet, the lyrics we do have provide a context of sorts. --Self Called Nowhere 22:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- In the context of my interpritation of the song, skiff doesn't really make sense. Besides, there is really no context for either of our guesses because the rest of the sentence (which would be the context) is still a mystery. --Propman 21:22, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I don't know. Skiff really seems to make sense in context and I have NO idea how mudskipper could make ANY. --Self Called Nowhere 02:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
Ok, I fully admit I did not think "mudskipper" was correct when Propman initially suggested it, but with the iTunes preview, that is pretty clearly the word. And I went and looked up mudskippers and it makes a lot more sense than I thought. They are a weird amphibian that uses it's fins to walk on land so it totally fits with the fin reaching up from the swamp line. I can't believe the two previews manage to stop and start right in the middle of the unknown line. That is so aggravating. But I think the word right before the part I filled in might be "flippers" and the word after "Where a" might be "frog's." But I'm not 100% sold on that so I guess we'll just have to wait and see. Also, I know "themself" does not really make the best sense but it really doesn't sound like "itself." Anyway, props to Propman on the mudskipper. Looks like you were right all along. --BlueCanary 00:52, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
- I love that we now have a studio recording and are still talking about this. How about this: "where a frog's flipper first evolved on the day when the daring mudskipper dragged herself away"? -j2
- I think that is mostly right. I've been discussing it with a few other people and I just updated it to what seems to be the general consensus. There doesn't seem to be an "s" on the end of frog and multiple people are hearing "itself" just slurred a bit. I also went back and checked the live recordings I have and they all seem to support that. So, at least until we have actual lyrics.... --BlueCanary 02:10, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
The line "Where a front flipper first evolved on the day When a daring mudskipper dragged itself away" reminds me of Pokemon. all i can think of is a Mudskip evolving into Marshtomp and John Linnell got pulled into the swamp by mudkip the first time but the second time a marshtomp pulled him in. --Beautiful Crook 17:57, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
- I like the way you think. -Warhammer Of Zillyhoo! (talk) 23:01, 9 November 2013 (EST)
