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Interpretations:Upside Down Frown

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This song is a favorite of mine, because I can so closely identify with the theme. Basically, "I love you and sympathize with what you're saying, but you mistake my straight face for apathy." In other words, John L. has trouble expressing emotion in a way that makes sense to others.

I wrote a poem once about a guy who is told "I love you" and responds "I love black jellybeans, the kind that no one wants." He is asked why he can't open up, and responds "Get the ribspreader." The "upside-down frown," for me, is an emotional response that somehow gets lost in translation. (Northside Jonny)


Besides Take Out The Trash, this song probably is the most straightforward and transparent song from The Else. The narrator is affected by all those normal emotional things in his life, but decides not to let it become externally apparent. The second person of the song (girlfriend, wife, whoever) is really annoyed by this, taking it for apathy. She sees things too literally, and so misses out on the true feelings hidden in him. That's about it. It's a nice little song. ~ magbatz


Agreed. I think (and to be honest its a guess given our guarded Linnnell is) that this song is one of his most openly autobiographical. In many ways he rivals Morissey for the doom and gloom he just sings it with a smile and upbeats melody this track seems to acknowledge that he although he can be gloomy he's very happy with his family life. Upside Down Frown being a joke of sorts. Perhaps to disguise the intimate nature of the song, Linnell smothers it with drum loops that belong only in the refrain and not the delicate intial verses. It's still a pretty song Linnell just about manages to keep the tweeness to acceptable levels. (Mr Tuck)

I dunno guys, I think the song is sarcastic. To me Linnell really seems to drive the sarcasm home with When I'm with you, the landscape goes all weird/Black is white, and the rainbow has a beard. Such an exaggerated lyric has got to be sarcastic. Like "oh yeh, not only is your information important to me but my whole life view has been shifted." -- 2sheds


We are making a major assumption that the text does not support - assuming the narrator is male, the other party female. There is no mention of the genders of either party.

Has anyone noticed that this is a theme with this songwriter - the frustration of dealing with reading other people's faces, especially when their expressions do not match their thoughts or feelings? "Unrelated Thing" is the sybling of this song, in that it relates the same sensation - the discomfort caused by talking to a person who gives mixed signals about their feelings.

This fascinates me. Difficulty in reading people runs through other songs as well - "I'm Your Boyfriend Now" is about a man who says he can "see it in your eyes, read it in your heart, hear it in you silence," and we know he has read the other person incorrectly.

I don't know the writer, but I think this song might be more general than is proposed above - I think it might be just his observation of his own discomfort about reading faces, that he is sharing that emotion with the listener because it is something often in his mind. He has said publically that some ideas get into song lyrics because they are anxieties floating in the background for them as people; could this be one instance of this?

Also, I can see the upside down frown referencing those photos (they were made into ads a while back) where a photomanip has a pretty woman with her eyes and mouth inverted and placed back on her face. You know something is wrong with the photo, but it takes a minute to realize her smile is actually an upside-down frown. Then it's disturbing. I wonder if the songwriter saw one of these and it reminded him of the sensation of people giving you a false face during conversation?

~Christina Miller, July 2007


I guess I always thought that the singer was male due to the John's voice, granted that's no guarantee, just an explanation. The other character, I believe, is definitely female because of the line "You say I'm going to die when you tell me", When is the last time you have heard a guy use such a line?

Good point. The last time I heard a man say approximately that, he was gay.

I always thought of it being a guy literally with an upside down mouth, so that whenever he hears something good, he'll frown, and vise versa, and his girlfriend doesn't quite get it. Kind of a simple interpretation, but it makes enough sense. ~ Anonymous


I think this song is about someone experiencing dissociation under torture. Not a pleasant interpretation, granted, but reading through the lyrics again, it still makes the most sense to me. - Anonymous 2


I'm not sure, but it kind of sounds like a guy that just recieved botox... You know, trapped in a smile for a period of time. ~~Anon the Third


I think it is about a person has a crush on someone and hangs around the around but the second party is oblivious to the fact that the person likes them and the "You say you've got some very excellent news/ You say I'm going to die when you tell me/ And in my way, I will" probably is about the other person getting a bf/gf and the person singing is crush on the inside,but puts up a barrier and pretends not to care. ~User:The Joaq


Regarding the line, "Black is white, and the rainbow has a beard." It's good to remember, when looking for interpretation in this song, that the rainbow having a beard isn't just a matter of two randomly-selected nouns: the rainbow is a symbol of gay lifestyles, and a "beard" is slang for the girlfriend/wife of a gay man, who is dating/married heterosexually for show only. Thus, "Black is white, and the rainbow has a beard" doesn't mean "Everything is random," it means "Everything is the opposite of what it seems." ~~Anon Quatro