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It's about a guy who hasn't had sex in a long time, and he's thanking the girl who ended his slump and put him back in his "shell" He's also wondering if she's a slut ("was it what you'd do for anyone"). Perspixx 02:18, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Man I dont get why so man people hate John Henry. I think it's so fantastic. Either way I think snail shell is the literal meaning. Snail fell out, someone put him back in yatta yatta. Very rocking song. Still just dont understand how people think every song on this album is weak. Musicaly its amazing and lyricaly usualy straight foward but put together and said very well.

A very very weak song. Yeah it's about a snail...yawn. How this was chosen as the single for John Henry I do not know. Like many of the John Henry songs, it is at least two minutes too long and is perhaps the worst track on the album. Indeed it's not even the best album on the EP it originally appeared on. Mrs Train and the old school genius of the Hotel Detective 1994 version see to that. (Mr Tuck)

I'm confused. How can every song on John Henry be the worst song on the album?--64.131.249.17 23:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

I think you're on the right track with the sarcasm there, but in my opinion it's about a person (not a man or woman necessarily, just a person in general; see 2nd line) who has always been kinda withdrawn (in a "shell", as it is often said) and was briefly drawn out of this shell and apparently fell in love with/befriended someone, who then turned on them/spurned them/otherwise hurt them, and put them back in their shell. Now they're resigned to their fate as someone who will never be socially accepted ("and now I'm where a snail has to be") and sarcastically "thanking" the person who put them back in their shell. This song seemed to lead me to that conclusion right away. -Tgies

You're both far too metaphorical. It's a simple song about a snail who fell out of his shell thanking the guy who put him back. He's so low he can't tell if it's a sir or ma'am, he fell out of his shell, and now he's back there (it's where a snail has to be).

The only thing that hints there's any more is his desire to thank them, and curiosity about the reason for the help. But I suspect the reason for the curiosity is simply because, as he notes, it's difficult for him to repay the person, so he's hopeful that it's something they would do for anybody (not requiring repayment), as opposed to something they'd only do for him (probably also OK, since they like him enough they won't require repayment), or something where they thought the act would be repaid (in which case, he needs to know how he can repay it).

Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the music video appears to be about being marginalized by the television media.

Realistically, snails are far too attached to their shells to "fall out", and if they did, they would probably be contented to just growing a new one... Though that logic is probably too nitpicky for a song where the same snail is capable of human emotion and speech.

Snail Shell could be an allegory for agoraphobia. A snail's a perfect agoraphobic, because detachment of its shell home is almost always fatal for it.

What I also see is that classic childhood experience where you're playing with a slug or a snail. You pour salt on it and watch as it shrivels up and dies. In this song, They chose to return a lost shell (which won't do anything since the muscles won't reattach) instead. You could scale it larger and interpret "hand" as something like the hand of some god deciding what to do with distressed, but ultimately doomed peoples. But then it gets kind of existentialist.

- sheep

I had no childhood experience of killing small innocent creatures for fun that I'd label "classic." I recall mother sending some slugs to their maker to keep them off the vegetable garden, but that involved letting them drink themselves to death, and it was always with a touch of mourning at their tiny pie-plate-of-beer melodrama.

So many great ideas here! Agorphobia is a brilliant thought, one I hadn't considered, so is the servant-to-master concept. I also had not considered that the snail was being sarcastic, which is possible. This is a clever group.

My take was that the narrator is someone humble and low, per usual - a worm, an experimental dog, a night light - and the jist of the lyrics was the wonderment at someone more powerful than you doing something kind for you for no reason. I had thought it was to capture that amazing conflicted feeling you get when it happens. The bulk of the song isn't about the snail himself, but about his thinking to himself about the act. Was it something about me? Did you do it with some thought of reward? What makes powerful people do nice things for people without power? - Christina Miller

Maybe the snail is trying to avoid repaying the person who helped him back, which is why he's apparently so interested in the discussion of the subject, as an attempt to postpone things with complex thinking.

It's sometimes difficult to figure out if TMBG songs should be taken literally or metephorically. Like some have these deep hidden meanings, and some are just funny or completly literal...I'm really not sure which one applies to Snail Shell -Ruth

Without thinking about it, upon hearing this song I immediately took it as one human being speaking to another, the former being someone the latter considers lowly. Perhaps the speaker was acting above his station, and he's thanking the other person for putting him back in his place, perhaps sarcastically. The "Sir Hand" lyric suggests the literal interpretation is probably the right one; still, I can't shake this idea.

Re: top poster: Get a grip. We should be allowed to think.

I think it's about a hermit crab that's fallen out of its shell somehow, and a kind stranger put him back in. Unlike snails, hermit crabs can live outside of their snail shells for at least a little while and can safely go back inside them. The line "and now I'm where a snail has to be" doesn't necessarily mean it is a snail talking, certainly a snail has to be in a snail shell, but other things can live there as well.

The 'sarcasm' mentioned in some of the interps above makes the most sense to me. The narrator (a person, not literally a snail) is not really happy or thankful to be put back 'in his place' (by a break-up or insult). Also, the first word in the song can be heard as "Sirhan", a reference to the assassin Sirhan Sirhan. Closely followed by "or is it ma'am?" seems to imply that the other person (the one being addressed by the narrator) is a woman. Which would make this another relationship-gone-bad song. --Nehushtan 14:21, 20 Mar 2006 (CST)

When I was younger, I was made fun of a lot; this was my "F*ck you" song. I was certain it was about someone trying to be brave enough to speak up or interact, but the person just gets made fun of / picked on, so he or she crawls back into his or her snail shell. I always thought it was a mix of sarcasm and a little honest belief that the world is scary and it's best to be nudged back into your safe place. It might just be about a snail, but it felt really good to blast this and hate all the other fourth-graders, so I'm sticking with my interpretation. --Miss Mott

As soon as I first heard this song, I immediately got the feeling that it was a sarcastic thank you. It really seems as if it's somebody being put in their place, and is saying that the person who puut him there isn't really all that great and shouldn't have the authority (and to the person above me, I was tortured in 4th grade, too. What a coincidence). A snail is considered to be a slow moving creature which isn't relaly all that high up on the food chain. The line "Was it what you'd only do for me?" makes it sound as if the person (Sir Hand) holds a grudge against the "snail" and is out to make the snail's life miserable.

The metaphorical social ostracisation mentioned at great length in above interps seems to be mostly along the right lines. I wouldn't agree, though, that it's sarcasm - I think our 'snail' is in denial about his situation, and glad that he has returned to his lonely life, away from the scary people in society.

Small, insignificant creatures representing social awkwardness - a theme, mark you, that was revisited to great effect in Doctor Worm.

I'd agree with the above suggestion, though I'm more inclined to see it as someone who's grateful for help of questionable value, like an alcoholic in withdrawl given a bottle or a criminal released into a society that will shun him. Stuff like that.

Or maybe it is just about a snail.

I think it's about someone ("the snail") who's been helped out by "the human", somebody "the snail" thinks is higher than himself, during a tough part of his life. So therefore, he wonders if "the human" would help out just anybody or just him, and gratefully asks "the human" what he, "the snail" could do to repay. (Confusing enough?) A great song, one of my John Henry favorites. :) --Lemita 01:19, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I especially agree with Tgies. I can articulate the relationship interpretation in a little more detail.

1. "Sir hand" is a reference to God, and "or is it ma'am" is a reference to the girl he's lost a friendship with. If God chose these events, then they will help the narrator and he may one day be able to "repay" the girl for opening up his perspective regarding feelings and experiences, at the expense of the burden of being exposed to a greater, more sublime suffering--watching and struggling against what increasingly seems to be a frightening potentially permanent loss of a friend.

2. In "I fell out of my right place again" I feel like his "right place" (ie, his "snail shell") had been (and continues to be) loneliness and introspection resulting in creative works that no one fully understood and that he couldn't expect to yet, if ever.

3. When he met this girl, he found a new place, love, which allowed him to see a different part of the world, outside of his introspective "snail shell". However, in the gradual and painful loss of a close friendship, he realizes repeatedly how much he belongs in his "snail shell".

3.1. I think the key is that the text is neither literal nor sarcastic; it can be read either way, and this is what contributes to the paradoxial richness and the wealth in deconstruction of the metaphors implied by the imagery. The idea of the "snail shell" can be read as good, right and necessary (supporting an interpretation of honest gratitude), but also evil, lonely, cold, and small for the moment (suggesting sarcasm in spoken gratitude).

3a. Here is in interpretation of snail shell as "good": The narrator, having been humbled, now sees in clearer focus the arduous, lonely nature of the task that he had long suspected was ahead of him. And now he has a clearer perspective that will always help him in his life. He can't yet "pay back" either God (ie, humanity) or the specific girl he met and learned from, but he hopes he will one day. The narrator has faith enough in his purpose that he knows this experience will ultimately be a boon for him and so holds no grudge or bitterness.

3b. Here is an interpretation of the "snail shell" as "evil" (in a Nietzschean sense), lonely, changing, disorienting, cold: The narrator speaks most of this sarcastically, knowing that true generosity is in silent magnanimity. He wants to see clearly both perspectives which could portray either his or her life as the more difficult or unjust life, but cannot help but be swayed by the comfort of the bias of his own worldview. He feels ultimately, that he is the more noble one and still harbors some resentment, but hopes to never act on this resentment, transforming it into creative energy, music, lyrics, poetry, instead.

4. The narrator's last speculation "Or was it something where you acted when you saw the need//And knew that there would be a way the act could be repaid//And so it may, but for today//I want to thank you for putting me back in my snail shell" shows clearly, in four lines, the process of his perspectival and moral fluctuations. The first two lines, with the idea that the girl "saw the need" and thought "the act could be repaid" imply that she is selfish and does not understand how the true nature of giving and love involves a dissolution of "self" and the obsoletion of a debtor-creditor relationship; this relationship which could be called love cannot be expressed economically:

"The gift turned inward, unable to be given, becomes a heavy burden, even sometimes a kind of poison. It is as though the flow of life were backed up." -May Sarton

"Should not the giver be thankful that the receiver received? Is not giving a need? Is not receiving, mercy?" -Nietzsche

But then the last two lines mark a return to gratefulness and thankless magnanimity, with a renewed faith and purpose, seeing the experience as a fortunate opening up of perspective, ultimately a blessing. (fractal tact 2:12am, 19 September 2007)

Just a thought: Snail shell rhymes awfully well with "jail cell."

Why didn't anyone to think of this? (I found it instantly obvious).

It's about a man living in an Orwellian nightmare, who either

A. can't stand living any way else due to how his brain is conditioned

B. is being sarcastic

and, after briefly getting out of total control and moderation, is expressing his "thanks" that he got put back in his place, or his "Snail Shell".

I agree with the idea that it's a sarcastic song about a person who is socially reclusive, but who briefly exited that "shell," only to get burned by the person he had found a connection with. What I really like, though, is the repeated reference to the addressee being "repaid." I see it not as gratitude, but as a suggestion that the speaker is going to get some sort of revenge. So when he says "...and knew that there would be a way the act could be repaid? And so it may..." he's saying "I'm going to get you for this someday."

Great observation, whoever you are! This enriches my appreciation of the song. --Nehushtan 21:44, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
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